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That is not true. It takes no paperwork if the bike belong to the rider and one paper if it doesnt belong to the rider.
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Read carefully! I was talking about rented bikes. To fly in your own bike into a country were renting is so cheap is a big waste of money.
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so obviously this is possible.
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Not if your coming from Laos and for the big pakistan Visa problem i skiped the country and flew into Indie and rented a bike there...
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Snakeboy is correct in what he says. When i rented in Thailand i had one bit of paper, which was my permission letter so to speak, which enabled me to leave the country and go to others.
We realise you are on about rented bike but you stated that you can not take rented bikes across the borders in SE Asia. We know you can. I have done it. I know prices are more to be able to do that but that was irrelivant to the statment you made 
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I have done it.
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OK for 25$ insted of 5$ per Day (400% more) or 600$ more per month or 1800 Dollars more per 3 months (1 in Thailand, 1 in Laos, 1 in Cambodia) you can. As you mentioned before but wasting 1800 Dollars is never an option for me so id say you cant. Rather rent different bikes in different countrys ;-)
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Theres not a problem taking a thai plated bike to Laos and Cambodia
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This is wrong. It takes a huge amount of paperwork and money and therefore is a big problem!
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Incorrect, It doesnt take a huge amount of paperwork to take a bike over 150cc into Laos or Cambodia. Its very easy as long as the bike ownership is in your name, you need copies of your passport & ownership book. Its about 600B - 700B for the bike on top of your visa, I took my own Thai reg'd Versys over to Laos in November. Time wise, you expect to lose 1-2 hours, but thats also waiting around for you passport visa, which you would need to do anyway.
If your taking a rented bike over the border, you need an official power of attorney form from the Dept. Land Transport, you take the ID card of renter / the ownership docs, you pay the stamp duty and the DLT verify the paper, it takes a morning to get. I think the paper, like most things at DLT is like 20B or 40B, but thats doing it yourself. If you are relying upon an rental company to do it, then expect to pay for someones time.
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Nothing else i said. Not possible with 125cc and with more it will be expensive or lots of paperwork for someone who never was in Thailand before and dont know the language and were all the offices are to do all what you wrote.
Basically - what Snakeboy says is wrong.
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Read carefully! I was talking about rented bikes. To fly in your own bike into a country were renting is so cheap is a big waste of money.
Not if your coming from Laos and for the big pakistan Visa problem i skiped the country and flew into Indie and rented a bike there...
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Theres no reason to read your writings carefully as it is bs from start to end. Anyhow I clearly recall you mention something about buying a buy in Vietnam. And now owning a bike all of a sudden changed to only cover rented bikes.
There is normally no problem taking a bike, rented or owned between most borders in SEAsia. Between Vietnam and Thailand however there seems clearly to be problems. Glad to see that Lonerider and Recom273 can confirm that.
But to buy and take a bike back to Europe from one of the SEAsian countries - I consider this impossible as until someone can prove it could be done.
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Thanks for all the advice here. I am beginning to see that buying a bike maybe a problem, well not buying it but getting through certain countries maybe a problem.
Given this maybe shipping my own bike to Thailand and then going to Vietman and then back to Europe but to bypass Pakistan either north direction through China or by ship to another destination, maybe Iran
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Getting a big bike with european plates into Vietnam is a huge problem and will demand that you organice the trip through a travel agency. Its costly and very inconveniant.
If you ship your bike to Thailand then concentrate your travel on Thailand, Laos and Cambodia as it is pretty straightforward paperwise.
If you want to travel by bike in Vietnam by bike - rent or buy a bike there.
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Theres no reason to read your writings carefully as it is bs from start to end.
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Just because you dont want to read my answers carefully does not mean they are wrong 
I think together we came to a prity good picture about what is possible and what is not possible or expensive. Most of the answers fit together if you dont mix up big/small/owned/rented/thai, vietnam or Europe plated bikes.
Bs. Vietnam has a limit in cc. The problem are not the european papers but usuarly those bikes are bigger then 300cc.
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Theres no reason to read your writings carefully as it is bs from start to end. Anyhow I clearly recall you mention something about buying a buy in Vietnam. And now owning a bike all of a sudden changed to only cover rented bikes.
There is normally no problem taking a bike, rented or owned between most borders in SEAsia. Between Vietnam and Thailand however there seems clearly to be problems. Glad to see that Lonerider and Recom273 can confirm that.
But to buy and take a bike back to Europe from one of the SEAsian countries - I consider this impossible as until someone can prove it could be done.
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Ah man, it doesnt stop does it .. and the 'facts' twist and change every time .. SB is correct. I just hope people stumbling on this archive of information don't rule out doing something because of a posters bad information.
One thing, totally unconnected but was mentioned earlier in a round about way, but a FYI for the guys riding small bikes. It seems Laos is stopping bikes under 150cc from entering ( sometimes it seems uncertain to wether or not they will permit ), for sure Thai reg'd scooters, maybe foreign bikes too.
Did you run your bike through VN snakeboy ? - you have a GSA right ?
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You can definetively take a local bike through most local borders
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There is normally no problem taking a bike, rented or owned between most borders in SEAsia.
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SB is correct.
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This is just not true. Not with rented 125er and not without lots of paperwork and money for bigger bikes as shown before. Easyest and cheapest is just to rent different bikes in each country and biggest waste of money is to ship your own bike around the globe into a country were there are no spare parts for it. Its so easy!
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I just hope people stumbling on this archive of information don't rule out doing something because of a posters bad information.
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Yes i hope so too otherwise i would not care and would not allways correct wrong information here!
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This is such a difficult issue. In their own way - based on their own personal experiences - probably all contributors posting on this thread are correct.
It is definitely not easy or straightforward getting vehicles in and out of Vietnam, not helped by inconsistent Hanoi officialdom and red tape on the various crossings along VN's borders with Laos and Cambodia.
It has been done though. I did it in April 2013, riding a New Zealand registered 650cc bike (2-up). I'm a Brit btw, so was my pillion.
And we weren't the first to ride into VN that year. A handful of other foreign overland bikers got through before me - all on big displacement bikes; plus
One other American touring couple on a US-registered BMW 800GS successfully crossed the frontier into VN a few days following our return back into Laos. We all had a group hug .. awww shucks! .. before they set off. The four of us just happened to be staying in the same hotel in Thakhèk (alongside the Mekong R.)
There's a lengthy earlier HUBB thread, amongst others, all about this vexed issue: HERE
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Ah man, it doesnt stop does it .. and the 'facts' twist and change every time .. SB is correct. I just hope people stumbling on this archive of information don't rule out doing something because of a posters bad information.
One thing, totally unconnected but was mentioned earlier in a round about way, but a FYI for the guys riding small bikes. It seems Laos is stopping bikes under 150cc from entering ( sometimes it seems uncertain to wether or not they will permit ), for sure Thai reg'd scooters, maybe foreign bikes too.
Did you run your bike through VN snakeboy ? - you have a GSA right ?
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No - obviously it doesnt stop as we can see. I just hope The HUBB ont let the misinformation be standing too long as new members might be mislead.
But I am going to stop now. To fight fools seems useless...
You are right that Laos seem to stop smaller bikes from entering from the Thai side. But I wonder if that is only for thais? I met a dutch guy on a thai plated Honda Wave in northern Laos somewhere. If I remember right this guy lived in Thailand. So obviously it can be done.
No I didnt go to Vietnam. As you know big foreign bikes arent allowed in there without being on a organised kinda tour. I ride a Tenere660 for the moment.
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This is such a difficult issue. In their own way - based on their own personal experiences - probably all contributors posting on this thread are correct.
It is definitely not easy or straightforward getting vehicles in and out of Vietnam, not helped by inconsistent Hanoi officialdom and red tape on the various crossings along VN's borders with Laos and Cambodia.
It has been done though. I did it in April 2013, riding a New Zealand registered 650cc bike (2-up). I'm a Brit btw, so was my pillion.
And we weren't the first to ride into VN that year. A handful of other foreign overland bikers got through before me - all on big displacement bikes; plus
One other American touring couple on a US-registered BMW 800GS successfully crossed the frontier into VN a few days following our return back into Laos. We all had a group hug .. awww shucks! .. before they set off. The four of us just happened to be staying in the same hotel in Thakhèk (alongside the Mekong R.)
There's a lengthy earlier HUBB thread, amongst others, all about this vexed issue: HERE
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Yeas you were one of the lucky b*******  who got into and could ride around in Vietnam on a big foreign plated bike. How long was that window open again? Just 2-3-4 months or so? Anyhow - great for you guys. I must say I envy you a tiny little bit there. Would have loved to ride into and around in Vietnam. Maybe another time...
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I have recieved , from those in VN in the tour business, various responses:
1.Pay $900 for the permit.
2.Since I have a 150cc no permit can be issued,ride in( this is where the communication got fuzzy).
3. Park your bike, catch a bus and rent ours.
when we get to Luang Pruang(?), we will go the VN consul there to inquire of the possibility of entering . We will start a thread if it happens.
Our Bike is a 150cc and so much is being said about the limits to size but yet I donot see anyone entering , especially on a regular basis.
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