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Theres not a problem taking a thai plated bike to Laos and Cambodia
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This is wrong. It takes a huge amount of paperwork and money and therefore is a big problem!
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taking a Vietnam plated bike to Laos and Cambodia.
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This is wrong. We tried with our own vietnam plated bike to enter cambodia but did not manage even we offered 100$ bribe so had to sell the bike again!
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This is wrong. It takes a huge amount of paperwork and money and therefore is a big problem!
This is wrong. We tried with our own vietnam plated bike to enter cambodia but did not manage even we offered 100$ bribe so had to sell the bike again!
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That is not true. It takes no paperwork if the bike belong to the rider and one paper if it doesnt belong to the rider. And under no circumstances does this cost any money.
I saw heaps of western travellers on Vietnam plated bikes in Laos and Cambodia january/february/march 2015 so obviously this is possible.
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What`s about Pakistan?
Hi folks!
First: excuse me because my bad english.
So, I don´t understand why you are asking about to buy the motorcycle, when (under my point of view) the problem is another one: to cross overland Pakistán.
I didn´t find update info, and the one I have about is too unsafety, because the taliban/terrorist/kidnappings situation.
Yes, maybe I am wrong, but, please, Could someone write info about update Pakistan situation?
Thanks in advance.
Happy New Year 2016.
http://topalante.es
Last edited by Topalante; 29 Dec 2015 at 01:27.
Reason: forgot something
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That is not true. It takes no paperwork if the bike belong to the rider and one paper if it doesnt belong to the rider.
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Read carefully! I was talking about rented bikes. To fly in your own bike into a country were renting is so cheap is a big waste of money.
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so obviously this is possible.
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Not if your coming from Laos and for the big pakistan Visa problem i skiped the country and flew into Indie and rented a bike there...
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Read carefully! I was talking about rented bikes. To fly in your own bike into a country were renting is so cheap is a big waste of money.
Not if your coming from Laos and for the big pakistan Visa problem i skiped the country and flew into Indie and rented a bike there...
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Theres no reason to read your writings carefully as it is bs from start to end. Anyhow I clearly recall you mention something about buying a buy in Vietnam. And now owning a bike all of a sudden changed to only cover rented bikes.
There is normally no problem taking a bike, rented or owned between most borders in SEAsia. Between Vietnam and Thailand however there seems clearly to be problems. Glad to see that Lonerider and Recom273 can confirm that.
But to buy and take a bike back to Europe from one of the SEAsian countries - I consider this impossible as until someone can prove it could be done.
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Theres no reason to read your writings carefully as it is bs from start to end.
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Just because you dont want to read my answers carefully does not mean they are wrong 
I think together we came to a prity good picture about what is possible and what is not possible or expensive. Most of the answers fit together if you dont mix up big/small/owned/rented/thai, vietnam or Europe plated bikes.
Bs. Vietnam has a limit in cc. The problem are not the european papers but usuarly those bikes are bigger then 300cc.
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Theres no reason to read your writings carefully as it is bs from start to end. Anyhow I clearly recall you mention something about buying a buy in Vietnam. And now owning a bike all of a sudden changed to only cover rented bikes.
There is normally no problem taking a bike, rented or owned between most borders in SEAsia. Between Vietnam and Thailand however there seems clearly to be problems. Glad to see that Lonerider and Recom273 can confirm that.
But to buy and take a bike back to Europe from one of the SEAsian countries - I consider this impossible as until someone can prove it could be done.
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Ah man, it doesnt stop does it .. and the 'facts' twist and change every time .. SB is correct. I just hope people stumbling on this archive of information don't rule out doing something because of a posters bad information.
One thing, totally unconnected but was mentioned earlier in a round about way, but a FYI for the guys riding small bikes. It seems Laos is stopping bikes under 150cc from entering ( sometimes it seems uncertain to wether or not they will permit ), for sure Thai reg'd scooters, maybe foreign bikes too.
Did you run your bike through VN snakeboy ? - you have a GSA right ?
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You can definetively take a local bike through most local borders
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There is normally no problem taking a bike, rented or owned between most borders in SEAsia.
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SB is correct.
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This is just not true. Not with rented 125er and not without lots of paperwork and money for bigger bikes as shown before. Easyest and cheapest is just to rent different bikes in each country and biggest waste of money is to ship your own bike around the globe into a country were there are no spare parts for it. Its so easy!
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I just hope people stumbling on this archive of information don't rule out doing something because of a posters bad information.
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Yes i hope so too otherwise i would not care and would not allways correct wrong information here!
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This is such a difficult issue. In their own way - based on their own personal experiences - probably all contributors posting on this thread are correct.
It is definitely not easy or straightforward getting vehicles in and out of Vietnam, not helped by inconsistent Hanoi officialdom and red tape on the various crossings along VN's borders with Laos and Cambodia.
It has been done though. I did it in April 2013, riding a New Zealand registered 650cc bike (2-up). I'm a Brit btw, so was my pillion.
And we weren't the first to ride into VN that year. A handful of other foreign overland bikers got through before me - all on big displacement bikes; plus
One other American touring couple on a US-registered BMW 800GS successfully crossed the frontier into VN a few days following our return back into Laos. We all had a group hug .. awww shucks! .. before they set off. The four of us just happened to be staying in the same hotel in Thakhèk (alongside the Mekong R.)
There's a lengthy earlier HUBB thread, amongst others, all about this vexed issue: HERE
Best of luck with it all. 
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Ah man, it doesnt stop does it .. and the 'facts' twist and change every time .. SB is correct. I just hope people stumbling on this archive of information don't rule out doing something because of a posters bad information.
One thing, totally unconnected but was mentioned earlier in a round about way, but a FYI for the guys riding small bikes. It seems Laos is stopping bikes under 150cc from entering ( sometimes it seems uncertain to wether or not they will permit ), for sure Thai reg'd scooters, maybe foreign bikes too.
Did you run your bike through VN snakeboy ? - you have a GSA right ?
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No - obviously it doesnt stop as we can see. I just hope The HUBB ont let the misinformation be standing too long as new members might be mislead.
But I am going to stop now. To fight fools seems useless...
You are right that Laos seem to stop smaller bikes from entering from the Thai side. But I wonder if that is only for thais? I met a dutch guy on a thai plated Honda Wave in northern Laos somewhere. If I remember right this guy lived in Thailand. So obviously it can be done.
No I didnt go to Vietnam. As you know big foreign bikes arent allowed in there without being on a organised kinda tour. I ride a Tenere660 for the moment.
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You are right that Laos seem to stop smaller bikes from entering from the Thai side.
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Ahhh now even you got it. Great :-)
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To fight fools seems useless...
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Most of the time yes but sometimes even they learn something so it was worth correcting you so many times.
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Theres not a problem taking a thai plated bike to Laos and Cambodia
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This is wrong. It takes a huge amount of paperwork and money and therefore is a big problem!
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Incorrect, It doesnt take a huge amount of paperwork to take a bike over 150cc into Laos or Cambodia. Its very easy as long as the bike ownership is in your name, you need copies of your passport & ownership book. Its about 600B - 700B for the bike on top of your visa, I took my own Thai reg'd Versys over to Laos in November. Time wise, you expect to lose 1-2 hours, but thats also waiting around for you passport visa, which you would need to do anyway.
If your taking a rented bike over the border, you need an official power of attorney form from the Dept. Land Transport, you take the ID card of renter / the ownership docs, you pay the stamp duty and the DLT verify the paper, it takes a morning to get. I think the paper, like most things at DLT is like 20B or 40B, but thats doing it yourself. If you are relying upon an rental company to do it, then expect to pay for someones time.
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