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best route from Sao Paulo to Colombia
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what is the best motorbike route from Sao Paulo to Venezuela or Colombia and what is the High lights ,thanks
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Por Tarija y vienes a visitarme. Te acompaño medio tanque en tu salida.
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Por Tarija y vienes a visitarme. Te acompaño medio tanque en tu salida.
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Obrigado, homem, você pode fazer um mapa com a rota ?
Usei o Google traduzir para entender e responder a você
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I will be joining you on a Honda AT 750. What are you driving?
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There isn't any direct land route from São Paulo to Colombia. Right now the easiest way to go from São Paulo to Colombia is leaving São Paulo, travel to Peru, ride trough Ecuador until you reach Colombia.
There's 2 main ways to make this route, crossing Bolivia (about 4500 kms from São Paulo to Lima) or going trough the Interoceanic Highway (about 5700 kms from São Paulo to Lima).
Is possible to arrive in Colombia trough Venezuela (you can leave São Paulo, ride all way up to Manaus and then enter Venezuela by the BR-174 and then cross to Colombia - about 7400 kms until you reach Bogota) but Venezuela right now is in the verge of a Civil War and the border between Venezuela and Colombia was closed not long ago and there's the risk to you when arrive in Venezuela be surprised with a new closing of the border between the 2 countries.
If I had to choose a route to arrive in Colombia right now I would choose the Interoceanic Highway route in a heartbeat.
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Venezuela / Colombia
A route passing through Venezuela is currently not an option. It is my understanding that the border between Venezuela and Colombia is not closed to people crossing the border, only vehicles. It is possible to enter Venezuela from Brazil with a motorcycle, but currently exiting Venezuela to Colombia with a motorcycle will be blocked.
Venezuela / Guyana (a side note)
There hasn't been a legal crossing from Venezuela to Guyana for many years, due to a dispute over where an agreed border rests. There are valuable minerals between these two countries and neither will agree to an official border.
Interoceanic Highway
The Interoceanic Highway fascinates me and I intend to ride a section of it one day, but not the whole length from Sao Paulo to Lima. From what I have read, the highway is mostly used by trucks, so a rider will have to deal with heavy commercial traffic. The Brazilian portion between São Paulo Rondônia (BR-364) has been paved since 1984. There may still be an unpaved section between Peru and the end of BR-364. My guess, any remaining gravel is reduced every year. My impression, the majority of the Brazilian highway a tour through farmlands, dull, mostly straight and should be taken only if the fastest route required.
See this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/m...road-trip.html
My un-tested, arm chair recommendation, leave Sao Paulo and navigate to Bonito, Brazil to enjoy the crystal clear waters. Explore the nature in the Pantanal. The most rain fails between November and March. If you visit in the dry season, the wildlife comes closer to the rivers and can be more easily observed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantanal
Brazil's Best Kept Secret: The Pantanal
Bolivia
From southern Brazil, my plan is to ride eastern Bolivia towards La Paz. Probably through Santa Cruz and Cochabamba...but I may have to dip south to Sucre to visit a few friends that I made on a ride in 2013. Take smaller roads with caution as the surface conditions will certainly be difficult and services need to be sought out. Buy gas at every opportunity and be prepared to pay the tourist fees for fuel.
Bolivia is a challenging country due to its poor economic state. It is in one moment unforgivingly brutal and the next moment crushingly beautiful.
Peru
The route along the Peruvian coast is to be avoided. North of Lima the ocean is mostly beyond the view of the traveler. The road is dead flat and populated by double trailer trucks that racing down this wind and sand swept road. If time allows, pick a course that is in land from the coast and enjoy the scenery.
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I will be joining you on a Honda AT 750. What are you driving?
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i always ride Africa twin 750
but not sure yet what i will be riding my plan is to fly to Brazil buy a bike and ride
if you know any good bike for sale will be great ,budget is maximum of 2500 usd not more
i know bikes are very expensive in Brazil ... hahahahaha
regarding Venezuela if it is not stable so forget it wont visit it and will head to Ecuador and Colombia
thanks man
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Originally Posted by bkm_br
There isn't any direct land route from São Paulo to Colombia. Right now the easiest way to go from São Paulo to Colombia is leaving São Paulo, travel to Peru, ride trough Ecuador until you reach Colombia.
There's 2 main ways to make this route, crossing Bolivia (about 4500 kms from São Paulo to Lima) or going trough the Interoceanic Highway (about 5700 kms from São Paulo to Lima).
Is possible to arrive in Colombia trough Venezuela (you can leave São Paulo, ride all way up to Manaus and then enter Venezuela by the BR-174 and then cross to Colombia - about 7400 kms until you reach Bogota) but Venezuela right now is in the verge of a Civil War and the border between Venezuela and Colombia was closed not long ago and there's the risk to you when arrive in Venezuela be surprised with a new closing of the border between the 2 countries.
If I had to choose a route to arrive in Colombia right now I would choose the Interoceanic Highway route in a heartbeat.
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thanks man for your kind comment so will avoid visiting Venezuela and will take your recommendation in mind
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24 Jul 2017
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Venezuela / Colombia
A route passing through Venezuela is currently not an option. It is my understanding that the border between Venezuela and Colombia is not closed to people crossing the border, only vehicles. It is possible to enter Venezuela from Brazil with a motorcycle, but currently exiting Venezuela to Colombia with a motorcycle will be blocked.
Venezuela / Guyana (a side note)
There hasn't been a legal crossing from Venezuela to Guyana for many years, due to a dispute over where an agreed border rests. There are valuable minerals between these two countries and neither will agree to an official border.
Interoceanic Highway
The Interoceanic Highway fascinates me and I intend to ride a section of it one day, but not the whole length from Sao Paulo to Lima. From what I have read, the highway is mostly used by trucks, so a rider will have to deal with heavy commercial traffic. The Brazilian portion between São Paulo Rondônia (BR-364) has been paved since 1984. There may still be an unpaved section between Peru and the end of BR-364. My guess, any remaining gravel is reduced every year. My impression, the majority of the Brazilian highway a tour through farmlands, dull, mostly straight and should be taken only if the fastest route required.
See this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/m...road-trip.html
My un-tested, arm chair recommendation, leave Sao Paulo and navigate to Bonito, Brazil to enjoy the crystal clear waters. Explore the nature in the Pantanal. The most rain fails between November and March. If you visit in the dry season, the wildlife comes closer to the rivers and can be more easily observed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantanal
Brazil's Best Kept Secret: The Pantanal
Bolivia
From southern Brazil, my plan is to ride eastern Bolivia towards La Paz. Probably through Santa Cruz and Cochabamba...but I may have to dip south to Sucre to visit a few friends that I made on a ride in 2013. Take smaller roads with caution as the surface conditions will certainly be difficult and services need to be sought out. Buy gas at every opportunity and be prepared to pay the tourist fees for fuel.
Bolivia is a challenging country due to its poor economic state. It is in one moment unforgivingly brutal and the next moment crushingly beautiful.
Peru
The route along the Peruvian coast is to be avoided. North of Lima the ocean is mostly beyond the view of the traveler. The road is dead flat and populated by double trailer trucks that racing down this wind and sand swept road. If time allows, pick a course that is in land from the coast and enjoy the scenery.
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Hello peter
thanks a lot for the very useful info ,that is so great ,,,will keep following your posts
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Originally Posted by omar mansour
i always ride Africa twin 750
but not sure yet what i will be riding my plan is to fly to Brazil buy a bike and ride
if you know any good bike for sale will be great ,budget is maximum of 2500 usd not more
i know bikes are very expensive in Brazil ... hahahahaha
regarding Venezuela if it is not stable so forget it wont visit it and will head to Ecuador and Colombia
thanks man
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Ok. I bought a AT in germany and took it out through Antwerpen. I travelled with Grimaldi to Montevideo and rode it back home, yes, I live in Tarija Bolivia. You're still wellcome even if your bike is a donkey with a doubled frame. Keep in touch with these websites. Some people out there need their bike being taken out of the country where they left it for some time or even want other people to drive it up to Mexico. Funny posts in short. Good luck anyway. Try to find yourself some extra for a decent bike. Can't think of parents that gamble their kids on low cost/not so trustworthy bike.
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Ok. I bought a AT in germany and took it out through Antwerpen. I travelled with Grimaldi to Montevideo and rode it back home, yes, I live in Tarija Bolivia. You're still wellcome even if your bike is a donkey with a doubled frame. Keep in touch with these websites. Some people out there need their bike being taken out of the country where they left it for some time or even want other people to drive it up to Mexico. Funny posts in short. Good luck anyway. Try to find yourself some extra for a decent bike. Can't think of parents that gamble their kids on low cost/not so trustworthy bike.
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thanks mate
sent you a pm
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through bolivia is the better and more beautiful way than the interoceanic highway.
the big part in brazil of the interoceanic is really boring and quite sad seeing no rainforest anymore and lots of dead animals close to the road.
the peruvian part is okay. even the street is quite boring and straight for a long time. in puerto maldonado you can do overpriced tours in the rainforest... the best part is when you pass the andes going from 200m up to 4700. thats a really beautiful scenery!
everything is paved!
the pantanal and before bonito is an awesome place on earth! you can take a ferry from the end of the north transpantanal to corumba, heading to bolivia-la paz tititaca and so on. the pantanal fascinate me so much even i´ve been there many time.
the transpantanal routes (north or south, north is more beautiful) isn´t paved. the rest is paved in brazil. the first part in bolivia up to santa cruz is paved afterwards there need to help somebody because is headed to uyuni and not la paz...which could be also a good way for you
other possibility could be heading to manaus and going by boat to leticia. but you will probably know leticia is a dead end city. you need to fly out from there.
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Originally Posted by Peter Bodtke
The Brazilian portion between São Paulo Rondônia (BR-364) has been paved since 1984. There may still be an unpaved section between Peru and the end of BR-364. My guess, any remaining gravel is reduced every year.
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The interoceanic highway if fully paved by now.
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other possibility could be heading to manaus and going by boat to leticia. but you will probably know leticia is a dead end city. you need to fly out from there.
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To get to Manus typically means riding BR-319, ~400 miles from Humaitá to the banks of the Amazon across from Manus. That's ~400 miles of mostly dirt or mud (depending on the time of year), without lodging or gas stations. A hard road for sure and one that is on my list. There are other ways to get to Manus, but that's the one I dream about.
According to this website it is possible to find a boat from Iquitos to Yurimaguas 3 to 6 days. There are roads toward Lima from Yurimaguas, but the road could be hard to brutal. And the areas deep in the Peruvian Amazon are populated with a few cocoa farmers and they aren't tourist friendly.
http://www.go2peru.com/peru_guide/iquitos/how_to_arrive.htm
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To get to Manus typically means riding BR-319, ~400 miles from Humaitá to the banks of the Amazon across from Manus. That's ~400 miles of mostly dirt or mud (depending on the time of year), without lodging or gas stations. A hard road for sure and one that is on my list. There are other ways to get to Manus, but that's the one I dream about.
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it´s mine dream too...i have only seen some videos and heard some first hand stories of brazilian bikers who did this.
there is no way you can do it in the rain season but in the dry season it should be passable. still it´s a fight against the mud!
the petrol situation is difficult for bikers but im pretty sure brazilians would help you...
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