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6 Apr 2012
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Hi all,
I just want to clarify the petrol situation in Bolivia to help those of you who may be struggling to understand it. It is not a case, as some believe, of corruption or ripping off the rich foreigner.
There is another post on this topic elsewhere in the Hubb so i'll try not to repeat things.
The government in Bolivia heavily subsidises the cost of gasoline. Rightly or wrongly (and for the sake of tourism, i believe wrongly) the government has determined not to extend that subsidy to foreign registered vehicles (note i did not say foreigners). Therefore locals pay bs3.74 per litre while foreign registered vehicles pay bs9.18 per litre.
That is the law. The guy you meet at the fuel station is not making it up, he is simply doing what he is told. Furthermore, most stations now have cameras installed, specifically focused on numberplates, so he must report his sales correctly.
A further complication is that when they sell fuel to a vehicle with foreign plates they must issue two receipts. Here is how it works:
You buy 20 litres of fuel. You will get a receipt on the fuel station's letterhead for bs3.74 x 20litres = bs74.8. You will then get a receipt on the national fuel supplier's (YPFB) letterhead for bs5.44 x 20litres = bs108.8. Add the two together and you have 20 litres x bs9.18 = bs183.6. One receipt forms part of the fuel stations sales tax calucation, the other goes directly to the government to record sales to foreign registered vehicles.
Unfortunately not all fuel stations have the required foreign sales receipt book, or as i have discovered, the person assigned to managing that receipt book is not always there so the fuel station cannot sell you fuel at all!!
So what can you do? Well, standing there loudly proving your ignorance while dressed in over $1000 worth of clothing, standing next to your $5000+ plus bike with thousands of dollars worth of accessories is probably not going to win you any friends - and may even involve the police as Tobi pointed out.
Remember that the fuel station attendant probably earns in a month what you will spend in food and lodging for the day.
Try one of these:
1 Fill up on the black market along the highways. You'll pay between bs5-7 but at least it is less than bs9.18!!!
2 find a vehicle with local plates and offer to pay 1bs more per litre if the driver will allow you to syphon from his gas tank.
3 park your bike around the corner and walk in, or send a local in, with fuel canisters.
4 offer the fuel station attendant some extra money if he fills you up at the local price.
I don't recommend option 4 but it is possible. Options 2 & 3 are logistically a nightmare and could turn filling up into a tireesome process. But that is the way it is i'm afraid.
I hope that clears the situation up for you. And i hope our confused fuel situation doesn't affect your enjoyment of Bolivia.
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7 Apr 2012
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the gasolineria on the exit south out of Uyuni sells without a problem, but please give them a tip. As you only pay the Bolivian price, you save enought to give them a buck or two!
Do agree with some here, that we shouldn't go crazy on the guys at the petrol stations. They are just doing their job, and plenty of stations (privately owned, and thus not allowed to sell to us) are closed for months after the government found out they did. Can't blame them for being strict then!
It is the government to blame, and thus did we only fill up 'illegaly' at the side of the road, or in the local tienda in a small village. WIll cost you 5-7Bs per liter, but at least it is hard working people making money, not the government who makes up these shitty rules.
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11 Apr 2012
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take a bicycle
in chile and argentina the gasoline is something like 1,7$. in bolivia 1,3$ (tourist price, not subsidized from a poor country).
if you can´t afford the fuel, why not take a bike, tacano?
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13 Apr 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nikodemus
in chile and argentina the gasoline is something like 1,7$. in bolivia 1,3$ (tourist price, not subsidized from a poor country).
if you can´t afford the fuel, why not take a bike, tacano?
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Oh, I don't mind paying the tourist price but I do need petrol.
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15 Apr 2012
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Ruta 1 just south of Camargo. Local prices and a smile from the nice lady on the pump.
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20 Apr 2012
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Uyuni: No problem buying fuel at local prices at any of the three places in town.
Going from Uyuni to Calama (Chile), no petrol along the way. However, the nice lady at the Atahualpha Hostal sold me a few litres from a jerry can.
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Gas
In SAN CRISTOBAL, south from Uyuni via Villa Alota and Lagunas, usually they have with no problems.
Cory's recommendations are practical. Always carry your bin or extra-bottles, just in case, and fill them up always that you may
Good luck, Santiago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dunch
Ruta 1 just south of Camargo. Local prices and a smile from the nice lady on the pump.
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Great thread this, one of the few petrol stations you *can't* miss (one road in and one road out :-) ) and we have a GPS reference.
The poster who said getting fuel was easy in Potosi never mentioned an address or GPS ref. And it is actually possible to enter and leave Potosi without seeing any of the gas stations :-)
So, guys, can we have road names as well as GPS refs ? Some of us do not use GPS.
(Nor do we all have large gas tanks :-) I am a glutton for punishmentt. 17l is enough for anyone...... heck last time I did it with a 15l tank :-) )
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Any chance that someone who has been in Bolivia, or lives there can update this thread please
Thank you.....
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