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12 Jun 2012
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need some help
i was taking my RUT today. The friendly man at the office told me, that I have to come back to pick the RUT-Card after 3 month(!). As I want to move on soon, I can't do that but the paper he gave me is only valid for 3 Months and I planned to travel 4 month, . I told him all of this, and he said - don't worry, thats all not a problem, you can go to all these countries and sell the bike.
do you guys think I can sell the bike without this card in my hands?
thanks for your help!
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13 Jun 2012
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Originally Posted by neubauer_dominik@gmx.at
i was taking my RUT today. The friendly man at the office told me, that I have to come back to pick the RUT-Card after 3 month(!). As I want to move on soon, I can't do that but the paper he gave me is only valid for 3 Months and I planned to travel 4 month, . I told him all of this, and he said - don't worry, thats all not a problem, you can go to all these countries and sell the bike.
do you guys think I can sell the bike without this card in my hands?
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I am assuming you have a Chilean bought bike.
If you sell the bike in Chile, you will need the RUT. Your temporary RUT should be fine. In other countries you will not need a RUT to sell the bike. If you sell the bike in another country (Paraguay may be an exception) either you or the buyer will be responsible for import taxes in that country. The cost of these taxes will render the bike nearly worthless. Some have sold their bike for parts. You may be able to sell it in a very rural area or to someone with "connections."
You will also be responsible for export taxes on the bike, if you do not return it to Chile. I don't know how this may manifest itself, but you may run into problems if you try and buy another bike or conduct other government business using your RUT. I doubt you would have any trouble just returning w/your passport.
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27 Sep 2012
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if your heading back into chile to sell the bikes and your temp RUT runs out and you haven't picked up your card, you can go to the office and they will issue you with a copy of the temporary rut and change the dates, this is what they did for us, April 2012
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24 Nov 2012
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Just want to add something about the RUTs.
The number given is "commercial" and can only be used to buy a bike from a dealer.
If you buy privately then the vehicle cannot be transfered into your name. At least not until you either have the proper plastic RUT card or have bought something "commercially" first.
We ended up just going for the notary route and will get the paperwork sorted when we get back to Santiago in January.
So far the notary letter has got us into Argentina. Will be trying Bolivia soon.
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13 Jul 2014
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RUT, insurance etc.
Planning an 8-12 weeks trip starting and ending in Santiago - doing a loop into Bolivia, Argentina and if the time allows it, Peru. My question is, is it possible purchasing a motorcycle from a dealer in Satiago and getting him to do all the paperworks before landing in Chile?? Because our timeschedule is a bit tight, it would be preferable not to spend 10 days waiting for the paperworks to be done. Cheers!
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2 Aug 2014
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Originally Posted by Skytte
Planning an 8-12 weeks trip starting and ending in Santiago - doing a loop into Bolivia, Argentina and if the time allows it, Peru. My question is, is it possible purchasing a motorcycle from a dealer in Satiago and getting him to do all the paperworks before landing in Chile?? Because our timeschedule is a bit tight, it would be preferable not to spend 10 days waiting for the paperworks to be done. Cheers!
Mads from Denmark
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You need a RUT to buy a motorcycle or transfer a used motorcycle into your name. It is as simple as that. In theory, one could "borrow" it, but then you would still need a notoria to process the paperwork, which you would need a RUT and probably have to be there in person too. Besides, not sure you would find a dealer willing to bother with all this. I know procircuit will do the paperwork but only if you buy the bike and have a RUT number, as far as I know.
I hope someone will correct me if I´m wrong.
Good luck!
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6 Aug 2014
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Originally Posted by BruceP
Just want to add something about the RUTs.
The number given is "commercial" and can only be used to buy a bike from a dealer.
If you buy privately then the vehicle cannot be transfered into your name. At least not until you either have the proper plastic RUT card or have bought something "commercially" first.
We ended up just going for the notary route and will get the paperwork sorted when we get back to Santiago in January.
So far the notary letter has got us into Argentina. Will be trying Bolivia soon.
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I know this was posted back in 2012 but I have a question…
I have a temp (paper, not plastic) RUT. I have found a bike and had planned to go to the registrar civil tomorrow to transfer the bike from a private owner to myself.
If I am reading this right, this is not possible.
Does anyone have any information about this?
I was under the impression all I needed was a RUT number to buy a bike.
Has anyone bought a secondhand bike without the plastic RUT card?
I would prefer not to just go the 'notary route'.
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6 Aug 2014
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Originally Posted by mountain-bound
I know this was posted back in 2012 but I have a question…
I have a temp (paper, not plastic) RUT. I have found a bike and had planned to go to the registrar civil tomorrow to transfer the bike from a private owner to myself.
If I am reading this right, this is not possible.
Does anyone have any information about this?
I was under the impression all I needed was a RUT number to buy a bike.
Has anyone bought a secondhand bike without the plastic RUT card?
I would prefer not to just go the 'notary route'.
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Are you doing this in Santiago?
I was told not - to be clear, I was told at the registrar civil I could not register the bike in my name without the plastic RUT card. I was told by someone at work that this is due to the paper RUT being temporary, and subject to change. I also asked a US lawyer who works in Chile, and he said you should be able to with the paper RUT.
All that said, I was unable to get my bike plated until the plastic RUT arrived - but this was at a registrar civil in a small town, and not Santiago. If I were you I would actually go and ask before you purchase the bike, otherwise you will need to wait for your plastic RUT to arrive. If you go to the webpage of the Civil Registrar, there is a page where you can enter your temporary RUT and it will tell you when it is ready. When I did this, it gave false information - welcome to Chile.
Let us know how you get on because if they have changed policy here, it means the buying process in Chile will be greatly affected.
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13 Sep 2014
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if that happens to you, just go to a different registro civil. It seems the rules arent too clear in Chile for this stuff. When we bought 3 bikes back in January of 2014 we registered and did ALL paperwork with just the temporary RUT without any problems. That's why they give you the Temporary RUT number!
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30 Nov 2014
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I keep seeing buyer's guides indicating that the first step is to get a RUT... for what it's worth, when I tried to get a RUT last week at the Providencia SII (having just moved to Santiago from the US), after about 45 minutes in two lines, they told me I needed to bring a "quotizacion" (estimate) with me in order to apply for a RUT, so I left the SII pretty much empty handed.
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8 Dec 2014
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For information.
I bought my KLR650 last week in Santiago. The hole process took 3 days and was completly done by the dealer. The only thing I have to do now by my selfe is to get the international insurance for bolivia and Peru to cross the border.
I just have to finde out where I can do that. Is it possible in san Pedro or over the internet?
Greetings
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17 Dec 2014
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Originally Posted by pbearn
I keep seeing buyer's guides indicating that the first step is to get a RUT... for what it's worth, when I tried to get a RUT last week at the Providencia SII (having just moved to Santiago from the US), after about 45 minutes in two lines, they told me I needed to bring a "quotizacion" (estimate) with me in order to apply for a RUT, so I left the SII pretty much empty handed.
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Maybe try it again? You definitely shouldn't need a quote. If not can you try another SII?
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21 Dec 2014
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Steps to Buying a Used Bike in Santiago Chile
On a different note - has anyone ever;-
a; Sold a Chilean plated bike outside of Chile - to either a local or another gringo,
b; returned to Chile without the bike they left with,
c; returned with the bike but exceeded the 6 month exit permit,
d; bought Chilean bike outside of Chile and ridden it back,
The reason I ask is because I'm currently in Bolivia but don't really want to return to Chile, flavouring continuing north until I get to Colombia, Mexico, Alaska whatever...!
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23 Dec 2014
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Can you get a RUT without a visa?
Hi all, would appreciate some help in some (still!) confusion i have.
Its to do with obtaining a RUT. More recent searches on the net have revealed that i need to first register my visa at the police station as the first stage of obtaining a RUT. For example the following website details the process quite nicely.
How To Get a Chilean RUT/RUN Number in Santiago, Chile
However there is one problem which im sure many share. I dont need a visa! Im from the UK and will not be stamped a visa on entry.
Now how do i obtain a RUT to buy a bike without a visa?
Does anyone have any knowledge/ recent experience of buying a bike in Chile without having a visa stamped in your passport?
Is there some other stamped document/ certificate i need to take the place of the visa? Can i skip the register the visa step and go straight for the RUT as previously described at the start of this thread?
Any help/ advice would be much appreciated as i may be starting to panic, my flight to Santiago is on the 2nd Jan 2015... thanks
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24 Dec 2014
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Steps to Buying a Used Bike in Santiago Chile
Claire,
If you have a visa you do indeed need to register it at a police station where they take your details and give you a document you then take to get the RUT. However if you are just there on a tourist visa I can only assume you do not need to do this. I only did this this because inhad an actual work visa from the Chilean government. You should just follow the steps as detailed here and elsewhere. The situation on the ground appears to be due to the clerk on the day, but it would seem you still SHOULD be able to obtain a RUT as a tourist on a normal tourist visa. Best you can do is simply turn up and see what happens. Good luck!
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