Yep seems to b the swing of things... turn up and see what happens.. il let you know how i go

Hi Claire, I think I know what's gone on here - basically it's really confusing, but in Chile there are two separate tax/identity numbers, one is the RUT (Rol Unico Tributario) - this is all you need to buy a motorbike and it's really easy to get, you don't need your visa stamped or anything - and the other one is a RUN (Rol Unico Nacional) - this is also the Chilean identity card called a cedula, foreigners can get it as well if they have a work or study visa, but the confusing part is that everyone seems to refer to the latter card as the 'RUT' as well. I have no idea why.

But so basically that page 'How to get a RUT/RUN in Santiago' is actually about how to get the proper Chilean ID card, which you don't need to buy a bike.

To get the (real) RUT you need for the purchase just go to a Servicio de Impuestos Internos office after you arrive (I think there are about four in Santiago and you need to go to the one corresponding to your address) and they will give you a temporary RUT number on a piece of paper you can use to buy a bike, then three months later you can pick up the card. I'm fairly sure that with the temporary one you can only make the purchase through a public notary, and not through the Registro Civil.

Best of luck with everything

Evernon,

Thanks for clearing that up!!

Given you seem to know what's what - maybe you could advise me on something?

I was on a temp work visa and presumably got a RUN and cedula, ie that light pink card with my photo on and fingerprint. It has an expiration date corresponding to that of my visa.

Do you foresee issues trying to sell the bike with this and/or would I need to get something else? Presumably I am still in the system with the RUT number that's on my padron?

Any suggestions would be great!

Thank you Evernon for that. . Cleared confusion up nicely! C

Just to check I assume you mean your visa and cedula have now expired?

I'm not certain but from what I gather from lachy's earlier post is that you need the plastic RUT card to sell a bike - so not just the temporary one, but the one that needed to be collected sometime between three and six months after getting the number.

If for whatever reason you didn't get that I'm really not sure. I imagine your RUT number would still be in the system, and also when I bought my one second hand via a public notary they never asked to see any cards, they just wanted to know the number.

If your cedula isn't in fact expired you could probably use that, although the RUN number will have to match the number on your documents.

Glasswave or anyone else:-

Could you tell me how to get this extended for the year? Can this be done at the Aduana on exit or must be obtained in Chile, etc?

I want to drive up to Colombia and get a job for six months so having a year outside would be amazingly convenient to my plans.

Many thanks!!!
RTW

Hello everyone,
New to the forum here.

I'm soon going to Santiago to buy a bike. I don't have any specific plans on where I'm going or for how long. So, I have the same questions as you do. Mostly if it's possible to sell the bike somewhere in Colombia or in Central America. Have you found any answers yet? Or can anyone else deliver some good news?

Thanks!
Erra

Well, I went back today, spent another 45 minutes in line, got up to the front and got my RUT on the spot. They didn't even ask for the quotizacíon that I´d brought with me this time.

Separately, I found the bike on Clasificados yapo.cl - Avisos Clasificados Gratis en Chile: Vehículos, Motos, Casas, Departamentos y otros productos., the selection is smaller than than on chileautos.cl but the prices are better. As I vaguely understand it, chileautos charges a commission but yapo does not.

it took 25minutes to get my temp RUT. i went midweek and was there for when the doors opened.

i attached the screenshots (if it works) of the 4 office locations in SNTG. I went to SNTG East Regional as it corresponded to the province of my address. The translate thingo on my Samsung does a good job for me!

Theres a specific RUT only desk to the right as you walk in. No need to take a ticket you just line up. Get your form - get them to mark which parts to fill in. After filling in, line up a second time, hand it in - they will putall the info in the system. You will be given a slip of paper which you need to CHECK and sign.

Your RUT card i was told was available after 45 days. It will be held for one year in the same office. You must collect it from there. The fella spoke perfect english so i do not believe there was any miscommunication on this.

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To request a RUT you need to request & fill out Formulario (form) 4415 at the Servicio de Impuestos Intornos.

Click here for a scan of the form showing exactly the fields I filled out.

Something I have not seen mentioned on any of the Chile buyer's guides on any English site is that any unpaid fines associated with the vehicle get passed along to the new owner (unlike the US, nearly everything gets passed on to the new owner... any remaining insurance time, inspections, etc... even the license plates. It's all attached to the vehicle itself, not the owner, and it all gets transferred with the vehicle). So, it's a good idea to check if there are any fines prior to making the purchase. You can contest the fines and have them transferred back to the old owner, but it's better to know in advance. You can check for any outstanding fines at the following site.

The site wants exactly 6 alphanumeric characters for the license plate number. Motorcycles have 5... Insert a zero before the real numbers. Eg, instead of AB789 enter AB0789 into the website.

http://consultamultas.srcei.cl/Consu...ltasExterna.do

Hello!
I just arrived in Santiago and looking to get a RUT to buy a 125cc motorbike from a dealership.

So I went to the santiago centro SII and they gave me the form 4415.1 which is the RUT for foreigner without residency. In this case I need to go to a notaria to confirm my address (hostel) and need to find a representente.

A potential problem is that I'm not sure if the guy in charge of the hostel rent the place properly, in a legal way. So i'm not sure he'll be fine going to a notaria and be my "representente".

form 4415.1: Inscripción al Rol Único tributario y/o Declaración de Inicio de Actividades para extranjeros sin residencia.
http://www.sii.cl/formularios/imagen/F4415_1.pdf

instead of just the "normal" one:
http://www.sii.cl/formularios/imagen/4415.PDF

any idea, recommendation? Can I go back an just ask for the "normal" one?
MY main problem is my spanish which is nearly inexistant.

Thanks!

Concerning my RUT application:

The law changed on 1st of January 2015 and now for foreigner it is the form 4415.1 previously linked that you'll have to fill.
Which mean you have to find someone in Chile who will be your representent. You'll have to go to a notario with him to certificate that he represent you in Chile, and to have a certified copy of your passport and his id card.
With that in hand and the filled form, it's no problem getting the temp RUT

And with the temp RUT i went straight to the dealer, got my bike and drove off 3hours later.

They're doing the paper work for me (registration) but apparently there is a problem, so I'll have to see them today, and will keep you updated. I hope there isn't another change of law this year!!

Hope you can benefit my recent experiences..

Obtaining RUT
Here is a copy of the "Representative" letter that you need a Chilean Resident or a Foreigner domiciled in Chile to sign. Go with your Representative to a Notary and get notarized: the letter, a copy of your passport, and a copy of their ID (cedula). It cost 7,000CLP I think. Go to the SII Office with these and fill in the 4415.1 Form.

I had a hard time to fill out the Representative Letter as I didnt know anyone in Chile. The legalese sounds scary, I asked a stranger (an Accountant) in the Tax Office to sign it for me while waiting, and she agreed; but she was put off when we spoke with the manager who outlined the responsibility she is under!

In the end, I had a French friend who is studying in Santiago, I went with her to a Notary. I returned to the Tax Office close to closing time, they objected again, but I pointed to the text citing a foreigner domiciled in chile can be a representative, eventually they relented.

I found the office in Romero 326 (serving Estacion Central area) close to Barrio Brasil to be more helpful and less congested than the Alonso Ovalle 680 (serving Central Santiago). Give an address of a nearby hostel if you want to be served by a particular branch.

Paperwork for buying the bike
I found a used bike to buy. I went with the owner to the Registro Civil, they refused to do the transfer for us. The price of the transfer would have 22,000CLP and the 1% tax of the sale amount.

We visited 3 nearby Notaries who refused to do the transfer for inconsistent reasons. I had to push the Owner to try a fourth who eventually did the transfer for us. The Notary is: Clovis Toro Campos, Compania 1312. Phone: 2 687 9682. We dealt with Ivonne Sepulveda V. Cost of transfer for 57,000CLP and the 1% tax of the sale amount.

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this paper have to be signed by you and your representative, and then stamped by the notario. You also need the photocopy of the ID card of your representative and the photocopy of your passport stamped too. At least with that I didn't had any trouble having my RUT.

Hopefully I have my plates an other papers tomorrow and set off saturday morning!

Good luck.
Try at your hostel, the guy was king enough to do it for me