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Steps to Buying a Used Bike in Santiago Chile
On a different note - has anyone ever;-
a; Sold a Chilean plated bike outside of Chile - to either a local or another gringo,
b; returned to Chile without the bike they left with,
c; returned with the bike but exceeded the 6 month exit permit,
d; bought Chilean bike outside of Chile and ridden it back,
The reason I ask is because I'm currently in Bolivia but don't really want to return to Chile, flavouring continuing north until I get to Colombia, Mexico, Alaska whatever...!
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Can you get a RUT without a visa?
Hi all, would appreciate some help in some (still!) confusion i have.
Its to do with obtaining a RUT. More recent searches on the net have revealed that i need to first register my visa at the police station as the first stage of obtaining a RUT. For example the following website details the process quite nicely.
How To Get a Chilean RUT/RUN Number in Santiago, Chile
However there is one problem which im sure many share. I dont need a visa! Im from the UK and will not be stamped a visa on entry.
Now how do i obtain a RUT to buy a bike without a visa?
Does anyone have any knowledge/ recent experience of buying a bike in Chile without having a visa stamped in your passport?
Is there some other stamped document/ certificate i need to take the place of the visa? Can i skip the register the visa step and go straight for the RUT as previously described at the start of this thread?
Any help/ advice would be much appreciated as i may be starting to panic, my flight to Santiago is on the 2nd Jan 2015... thanks
C
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27 Dec 2014
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Originally Posted by ktmclaire
Hi all, would appreciate some help in some (still!) confusion i have.
Its to do with obtaining a RUT. More recent searches on the net have revealed that i need to first register my visa at the police station as the first stage of obtaining a RUT. For example the following website details the process quite nicely.
How To Get a Chilean RUT/RUN Number in Santiago, Chile
However there is one problem which im sure many share. I dont need a visa! Im from the UK and will not be stamped a visa on entry.
Now how do i obtain a RUT to buy a bike without a visa?
Does anyone have any knowledge/ recent experience of buying a bike in Chile without having a visa stamped in your passport?
Is there some other stamped document/ certificate i need to take the place of the visa? Can i skip the register the visa step and go straight for the RUT as previously described at the start of this thread?
Any help/ advice would be much appreciated as i may be starting to panic, my flight to Santiago is on the 2nd Jan 2015... thanks
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Hi Claire, I think I know what's gone on here - basically it's really confusing, but in Chile there are two separate tax/identity numbers, one is the RUT (Rol Unico Tributario) - this is all you need to buy a motorbike and it's really easy to get, you don't need your visa stamped or anything - and the other one is a RUN (Rol Unico Nacional) - this is also the Chilean identity card called a cedula, foreigners can get it as well if they have a work or study visa, but the confusing part is that everyone seems to refer to the latter card as the 'RUT' as well. I have no idea why.
But so basically that page 'How to get a RUT/RUN in Santiago' is actually about how to get the proper Chilean ID card, which you don't need to buy a bike.
To get the (real) RUT you need for the purchase just go to a Servicio de Impuestos Internos office after you arrive (I think there are about four in Santiago and you need to go to the one corresponding to your address) and they will give you a temporary RUT number on a piece of paper you can use to buy a bike, then three months later you can pick up the card. I'm fairly sure that with the temporary one you can only make the purchase through a public notary, and not through the Registro Civil.
Best of luck with everything
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29 Dec 2014
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Thank you Evernon for that. . Cleared confusion up nicely! C
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23 Jan 2015
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To request a RUT you need to request & fill out Formulario (form) 4415 at the Servicio de Impuestos Intornos.
Click here for a scan of the form showing exactly the fields I filled out.
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23 Jan 2015
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Something I have not seen mentioned on any of the Chile buyer's guides on any English site is that any unpaid fines associated with the vehicle get passed along to the new owner (unlike the US, nearly everything gets passed on to the new owner... any remaining insurance time, inspections, etc... even the license plates. It's all attached to the vehicle itself, not the owner, and it all gets transferred with the vehicle). So, it's a good idea to check if there are any fines prior to making the purchase. You can contest the fines and have them transferred back to the old owner, but it's better to know in advance. You can check for any outstanding fines at the following site.
The site wants exactly 6 alphanumeric characters for the license plate number. Motorcycles have 5... Insert a zero before the real numbers. Eg, instead of AB789 enter AB 0789 into the website.
http://consultamultas.srcei.cl/Consu...ltasExterna.do
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13 Mar 2015
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RUT
Hello!
I just arrived in Santiago and looking to get a RUT to buy a 125cc motorbike from a dealership.
So I went to the santiago centro SII and they gave me the form 4415.1 which is the RUT for foreigner without residency. In this case I need to go to a notaria to confirm my address (hostel) and need to find a representente.
A potential problem is that I'm not sure if the guy in charge of the hostel rent the place properly, in a legal way. So i'm not sure he'll be fine going to a notaria and be my "representente".
form 4415.1: Inscripción al Rol Único tributario y/o Declaración de Inicio de Actividades para extranjeros sin residencia.
http://www.sii.cl/formularios/imagen/F4415_1.pdf
instead of just the "normal" one:
http://www.sii.cl/formularios/imagen/4415.PDF
any idea, recommendation? Can I go back an just ask for the "normal" one?
MY main problem is my spanish which is nearly inexistant.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ridetheworld
On a different note - has anyone ever;-
a; Sold a Chilean plated bike outside of Chile - to either a local or another gringo,
b; returned to Chile without the bike they left with,
c; returned with the bike but exceeded the 6 month exit permit,
d; bought Chilean bike outside of Chile and ridden it back,
The reason I ask is because I'm currently in Bolivia but don't really want to return to Chile, flavouring continuing north until I get to Colombia, Mexico, Alaska whatever...!
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Hello everyone,
New to the forum here.
I'm soon going to Santiago to buy a bike. I don't have any specific plans on where I'm going or for how long. So, I have the same questions as you do. Mostly if it's possible to sell the bike somewhere in Colombia or in Central America. Have you found any answers yet? Or can anyone else deliver some good news?
Thanks!
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20 May 2015
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Hello everyone,
New to the forum here.
I'm soon going to Santiago to buy a bike. I don't have any specific plans on where I'm going or for how long. So, I have the same questions as you do. Mostly if it's possible to sell the bike somewhere in Colombia or in Central America. Have you found any answers yet? Or can anyone else deliver some good news?
Thanks!
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If you sell the bike outside Chile nobody will ever be able to register the bike in Chile again. Without a "poder" of the legal owner singned in a notary he/she will not even be able to enter Chile.
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4 Jun 2015
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So this new law in Chile is bad news for every foreigner trying to get a RUT and buying a motorbike in Chile.
End of this year I planned to buy a motorbike in Chile to travel around for a year or so in South America. But as I dont know anybody in Chile (or somewhere else in SA) I obviously won´t get a RUT.
Can anybody tell me which country is the easiest now to buy a motorbike or car and explore South America and sell it later?
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4 Jun 2015
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dont dismiss chile
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Originally Posted by mangoo
So this new law in Chile is bad news for every foreigner trying to get a RUT and buying a motorbike in Chile.
End of this year I planned to buy a motorbike in Chile to travel around for a year or so in South America. But as I dont know anybody in Chile (or somewhere else in SA) I obviously won´t get a RUT.
Can anybody tell me which country is the easiest now to buy a motorbike or car and explore South America and sell it later?
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I wouldnt dismiss Chile as a place to buy solely because there is an extra step to obtain a RUT now. There is no reason why you cant find someone to fill the Representative Form for you: there is a Chilean community here on the HUBB, I contacted people on couchsurfing to help me and found someone who said he'd fill in the Representative Form for me, a guy who posted here had the manager of the hostel do it for him. I had a French Friend studying in Santiago (considered "domiciled" in Chile) who did it for me.
I think if you explore the forum here more, you can find pros and cons of each country as a place to buy. It takes some time and effort everywhere, the important thing is to persevere.
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11 Jun 2015
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Originally Posted by mangoo
So this new law in Chile is bad news for every foreigner trying to get a RUT and buying a motorbike in Chile.
End of this year I planned to buy a motorbike in Chile to travel around for a year or so in South America. But as I dont know anybody in Chile (or somewhere else in SA) I obviously won´t get a RUT.
Can anybody tell me which country is the easiest now to buy a motorbike or car and explore South America and sell it later?
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Which new law are you talking about?
All of the mentioned rules / laws haven't changed since I know Chile, nothing new.
Cars and bikes in Chile are way cheaper than in any other country in south america, even if you loose a bit by selling it somewhere outside of Chile in a notaria to some other traveller, you are still better off.
You just have to tell him that he can't go back to Chile with that bike.
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11 Jun 2015
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You just have to tell him that he can't go back to Chile with that bike.
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Pretty severe restriction given that it would also stop the new owner from going to Ushuia and of course the Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama route and a few iconic national parks and two duty free zones.
But apart from that ....
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Buying second Hand from a private owner
Hi all,
Can someone with experience clear for me the possibility of buying a second hand bike from a private owner with only the paper RUT number . Or am I restricted to buying from dealers only?
Many thanks
Vistar
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