Sure, it's a bit harsh. Thanks for shedding light on the background.

You're the first person on this thread that explains there was some sort of collision between the OP and a bus. So far the OP has told us Peruvian drivers drive by the rule of "Might is Right" = On a m/c you're at the bottom of the food chain. Some people knew this already, for others it's new news. Fine.

This is a very useful thread to be reminded that all 4 wheeled road users all over the world, particularly Peruvian bus drivers, are potential killers and that we should adjust our riding accordingly.

Then, every contribution from another poster leads to the reply "Sure, but..." by the OP. What are wrong with these contribution? They're on topic and relevant to the topic of riding/driving in Peru and South America/the world in general, as well as offering insight as to what it's like to drive 4 wheels and have erratic ("assertive"?) 2-wheelers coming towards them. I struggled to understand the extra points the OP was trying to make in his responses to the replies. Hence the harshness.

I wish the OP all the very best with fixing his bike and himself after his collision.

The Peruvian experience will allow the OP to be well prepared for riding anywhere on the Indian Subcontinent and Africa (as well as NYNY and Manningham, West Yorkshire )

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can you be so kind and tell me where I posted a question here so that I can tell you what to answer?If you do not like my well-meant information I will not change it for you only to sound like a cool rough adventurer. I would like to change many things in the world indeed and I am very well aware of the danger we live with. That you even have to be careful what to say to the ones sitting in the same boat, scares me more than the Peruvian drivers. (but this is certainly nothing you wanted to hear either)
PS where the f...is Gods own country?!

I always tell my South American friends that Lima had the worst driving I've ever seen. Brazilian folks are always kind of offended.

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County, not country

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=god%27s+own+county

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I say harsh cos he was being polite which was nice, I wouldn't have been quite so tactful.

Thanks for you wishes to his getting fixed, we are after all on the same team.

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we wrote at the same time...
which points did I make that you do not understand? where I come from, we ask in that case and do not go to attack.
when I answered with sure I wanted to confirm that problem that I am very well aware of. My post is not a general " how to ride a motorcycle safely" info but an attempt to help every traveller to come home in one piece and without wasting time in police stations, with doctors or bike shops...
I wish I had a copy of saturdays local paper with two reports about accidents we talk about,where 3 peruvians lost their lifes ( 2 of them cops on mc).they obviously have not learned what the vibes are like here .
Thanks for the wishes, if they are not ironic.

Mate, can I suggest you go for a long walk to get some fresh air: NO, the wishes were NOT ironic.

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that is what I did...
ok then, thanks for the update on where God is to be found : )

If you ever want to fly somewhere, rather than ride a bike or take a bus, can I suggest trying this airline: Yorkshire Airlines - YouTube

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.... no I am here bro

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Yeah I found drivers in Peru can be pretty aggressive,

I had a good friend who had a major accident and knew of another who sadly lost his life due to aggressive truck drivers in Peru.

Through Latin America (minus the east coast of South America)
I put my top 3 most dangerous drivers as #1 Honduras #2 Peru #3 Colombia

Due to the aggressive selfish drivers who would drive like total maniacs to force you off the road, either oncoming towards you on or from behind. In Peru I had drivers (particularly truck drivers) force me off the road daily, not just on corners but on open straight roads!

I found flicking my high beam headlight frantically and waving my left arm wildly , sometimes made them back off - as they saw maybe the bike was moving faster than they thought

Anyways, take care riders going through Peru

Thanks alot for the info Norschweger. We are heading up to Peru in about 2 months. Any info about Paraguay and Bolivia traffic ?
We are in Argentina at the moment, and the traffic is ok.

Now.... I am scared

I love downtown Lima, Peru but as one travels from downtown to the outskirts, there are hundreds of vans or mini buses, with side doors open, literally scooping up passengers along appointed routes - the scooping process sometimes includes dramatic lane changes. This not so unique form of private transport, poses little problem, when the vans and mini buses troll curb side, but always be prepared for unannounced lane changes in the event you have said described vehicle to the lee of you and potential "scoopees" starbord.

My best advice is to remain calm, ride defensively, and integrate yourself into the flow as best you can. And, at the risk of being censored for being boring, the best damage control, aside from defensive riding and avoiding Lima's peak traffic hours, is to have legal documents for yourself and your motorcycle and buy motorcycle and medical insurance from reputable insurance agencies.

If you do have an accident - and you are prepared with proper documents and insurances, it will only represent a delay, and hopefully, not a trip stopper. No need to be afraid, by the time you arrive Lima, you will be an experienced over lander.

Eat, Drink and Be Careful

xfiltrate

Now that is bollox.... everyone knows Derbyshire is much better

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