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All I can say is that if you think drivers in Peru, or anywhere else in the world are bad, just wait until you get to China! 
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All I can say is that if you think drivers in Peru, or anywhere else in the world are bad, just wait until you get to China! |
We have been to China a few times to visit family and friends, seriously the drivers in Peru are as bad or worst and aggressively worse for pushing you out and not giving a shit.
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I must admit Peruvian driving is the worst in South America in my opinion, had several near death experiences there and yes never used my horn as much! 
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Our Crash Yesterday
Head on into another moto here in Peru.
Dude was totally in our lane around a blind corner just as well we were not a bus or truck he would be dead.
...does make you wonder 
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hope your alright
Glad you made out of that! I have a photo of ambulance driving in the oncoming lane, I'll try and post? I wish I had one a police car I've been run off the road by them, so if they do it everyone will. I had to get off the road and stop for a truck today and looked over and he was laughing. What a jerkwad! These drivers/riders are dumb! Just f*#king DUMB!!!
In still in Peru myself and will be glad to be in Chile soon where they drive more civil!
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Glad you made out of that! I have a photo of ambulance driving in the oncoming lane, I'll try and post? I wish I had one a police car I've been run off the road by them, so if they do it everyone will. I had to get off the road and stop for a truck today and looked over and he was laughing. What a jerkwad! These drivers/riders are dumb! Just f*#king DUMB!!!
In still in Peru myself and will be glad to be in Chile soon where they drive more civil!
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Show me a country where an ambulance does not drive in the other lane ? Or police car ? Or fire engine?
You are in their country, study the way they drive and drive to their roads. Peru does *not* have the worst drivers. It is all relative. I've been reversed into in the USA and knocked off, does that make them the worst drivers ?
Grow up, grow some balls and stop whining.
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Originally Posted by Two Moto Kiwis
Head on into another moto here in Peru.
Dude was totally in our lane around a blind corner just as well we were not a bus or truck he would be dead.
...does make you wonder |
Looking at the pics, was it a fairly narrow road with a drop on the other side ? If so, then he was safest on the mountain side. Vehicles tend to hug that so that they are not forced off the edge.
Looks like every one was ok though. Did you swap insurance ? :-)
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Show me a country where an ambulance does not drive in the other lane ? Or police car ? Or fire engine?
You are in their country, study the way they drive and drive to their roads. Peru does *not* have the worst drivers. It is all relative. I've been reversed into in the USA and knocked off, does that make them the worst drivers ?
Grow up, grow some balls and stop whining.
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What the f...! This is so mal-positioned! especially considering that the op (me) and fellow riders TMK share their bad experience in order to help others! Maybe you should think again and grow up!
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Looking at the pics, was it a fairly narrow road with a drop on the other side ? If so, then he was safest on the mountain side. Vehicles tend to hug that so that they are not forced off the edge.
and that makes it ok?Do you realize that this could have killed at least one person, maybe three or four (if the other rider also had a passenger)? Of course you have to adapt to their way of riding/driving but there are things you just cannot control and many people here are reckless. I do not say that all of them are like this and I did never want to start a competition of which country is the worst. Obviously, many people here like to share their "even worse, more badass experience" instead of just accepting that there must be a reason why so many have made near-to-death experiences here and why it is a matter of fact that many people die in the traffic of this country.
Just today I could have pulled a guy out his f...n collectivo, who almost pushed off a bike and a motocar within 20seconds...
Looks like every one was ok though. Did you swap insurance ? :-)
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Thanks alot for the info Norschweger. We are heading up to Peru in about 2 months. Any info about Paraguay and Bolivia traffic ?
We are in Argentina at the moment, and the traffic is ok.
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You are welcome! Bolivia next..
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Lima was the wildest drive for us yet. I was glad we were in a truck, no one tried to push us out of the way, but we saw it happen - a lot. My hat is off to you bikers, not an easy ride.
Ecuador and Colombia are safe and polite in comparison.
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Lima was the wildest drive for us yet….[snip]….My hat is off to you bikers, not an easy ride.
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Yes, Peru was more awkward than Colombia and Ecuador, but I still can't remember anything so bad that it hadn't happened just as often in other places. Maybe there are a limited number of true psychopaths driving trucks and buses, and I just happened not to run into any?
I'd heard Lima was going to be intolerable, and had no desire to actually stop there anyway, so with vast trepidation I made plans to spend a half-day riding right through from north to south. An hour later I was out the other side and back on the desert, feeling somewhat hyper-alert but lacking the heart-pounding and gut-wrenching I've felt elsewhere.
If I measured national driving habits by whether people came around blind corners in my lane or tried to force me into the ditches, I'd be pretty glum about the workings of the world, and I'd definitely not have enjoyed coastal Italy or the rides through the Moroccan Atlas. And then there's my own hometown….
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What the f...! This is so mal-positioned! especially considering that the op (me) and fellow riders TMK share their bad experience in order to help others! Maybe you should think again and grow up!
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This thread is not about helping others, it is a general moan and whine session. I am trying to inject some realism into things.
If you bother to see/note the comment I have responded to you will see it in context. I see nothing wrong in emergency vehicles driving on the wrong side of the road, it happens in ALL countries.
We have all had scares and issues, some countries are seen as worse than others, but that is due to personal experience and should not be generalised.
I have been reversed into and knocked off in the USA, does that make it the most dangerous country ?
I don't agree this thread is here to help people, it is ore about scaring them and making them feel uneasy.
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Looking at the pics, was it a fairly narrow road with a drop on the other side ? If so, then he was safest on the mountain side. Vehicles tend to hug that so that they are not forced off the edge.
and that makes it ok?Do you realize that this could have killed at least one person, maybe three or four (if the other rider also had a passenger)? Of course you have to adapt to their way of riding/driving but there are things you just cannot control and many people here are reckless. I do not say that all of them are like this and I did never want to start a competition of which country is the worst. Obviously, many people here like to share their "even worse, more badass experience" instead of just accepting that there must be a reason why so many have made near-to-death experiences here and why it is a matter of fact that many people die in the traffic of this country.
Just today I could have pulled a guy out his f...n collectivo, who almost pushed off a bike and a motocar within 20seconds...
Looks like every one was ok though. Did you swap insurance ? :-)
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No, it does not make it OK. I am just pointing out an unwritten rule that people should be aware of, and utilise them selves.
Oh, and you need to calm down with the locals, smile and carry on.
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Grow up, grow some balls and stop whining.
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Heya Bruce, think you might be a little harsh there.
Yes emergency vehicles drive in the other lane but usually more in an emergency rather than just because at least that is my take.
Insurances .. you shitting me he couldn't even spell it, we have said first things first take a photo to show position just in case but he seemed to know he was in the wrong and wanted out of there, had damage been worse I would have locked his bike on the spot for the Police but not worth the shit and drama for the scuffs we got.
The road was actually two lane and although our side was rock the other side actually had a reasonable run out, there was no crash and die over a cliff stuff here which makes you wonder even more why he was trying to commit suicide on our side ???? .. and yes the other guy was his passenger.
So just yesterday a truck came around an open view corner saw us and swerved at us and back and laughed sending us off our line and wobbling .. .now why the fnck would he do that
We have a tin with stones in for dogs, yesterday one stone was used on a car that saw us, flashed his lights then pulled out head on onto us, there was no one else behind for miles ... why couldn't he wait 3 -4 more seconds but he insisted on running us off the road.
He will be looking for a new headlight now.
Tin reloaded!!!! 
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