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all good but it does not help to be assertive if you come around a corner and a bus is stearing right towards you. You have less than a second to chose between a frontal crash and the ditch. What if there is no ditch but a free fall of maybe hundreds of meters!
My lesson is: NO music while riding in these conditions, stay on the right side before corners, be even more alert and use the horn if you cannot see.
Other than that it makes perfect sense to show them that you are there and tend to use your lane yourself.
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As the driver of a BigRig, one dangerous mistake from some bikers is thinking they can round a corner with their wheels on their side of the centre line and their head two feet on my side of the line.
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Sure! But this another thing that I am not talking about.
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Sure! But this another thing that I am not talking about.

Please recap what you are talking about and write a draft of a reply that you would like to receive. That way I can copy and paste it into my reply and this will hopefully satisfy you.

Much of the world drives like tossers. If you don't like it, don't ride/drive there (probably something else you're not talking about...)
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Please recap what you are talking about and write a draft of a reply that you would like to receive. That way I can copy and paste it into my reply and this will hopefully satisfy you.

Much of the world drives like tossers. If you don't like it, don't ride/drive there (probably something else you're not talking about...)
That is a bit harsh Chris.

It is not that he does not like it here he just not like being left with a big repair bill from a "professional driver", I would feel the same.

Tobius put a polite thread after suffering reasonably sever damage to his bike bike and almost person from an arsehole driver who then denied EVERYTHING.

I have seen the damage personally and tried to help get it sorted.

Personally I would not have sugar coated it and called the bus driver what he really deserved and given the chance a right hand kiwi cuddle.

Suggest YOU reword YOUR post NOT knowing the entire background to a friendly warning for other riders post.

Tobius, post up the bus company etc and let the news out, no sugar coatings.
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And To Back This Up First Hand

A youtube vid of a guy who should NOT be driving, see the space on the left hand side, you can fit a car through there no worries, this guy should be shot!!

http://youtu.be/1Y4Eh6Xj-lw
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I always tell my South American friends that Lima had the worst driving I've ever seen. Brazilian folks are always kind of offended.
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A youtube vid of a guy who should NOT be driving, see the space on the left hand side, you can fit a car through there no worries, this guy should be shot!!

Shithead Bus Driver - YouTube

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I must admit Peruvian driving is the worst in South America in my opinion, had several near death experiences there and yes never used my horn as much!
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That is a bit harsh Chris.

Suggest YOU reword YOUR post NOT knowing the entire background to a friendly warning for other riders post.
Sure, it's a bit harsh. Thanks for shedding light on the background.

You're the first person on this thread that explains there was some sort of collision between the OP and a bus. So far the OP has told us Peruvian drivers drive by the rule of "Might is Right" = On a m/c you're at the bottom of the food chain. Some people knew this already, for others it's new news. Fine.

This is a very useful thread to be reminded that all 4 wheeled road users all over the world, particularly Peruvian bus drivers, are potential killers and that we should adjust our riding accordingly.

Then, every contribution from another poster leads to the reply "Sure, but..." by the OP. What are wrong with these contribution? They're on topic and relevant to the topic of riding/driving in Peru and South America/the world in general, as well as offering insight as to what it's like to drive 4 wheels and have erratic ("assertive"?) 2-wheelers coming towards them. I struggled to understand the extra points the OP was trying to make in his responses to the replies. Hence the harshness.

I wish the OP all the very best with fixing his bike and himself after his collision.

The Peruvian experience will allow the OP to be well prepared for riding anywhere on the Indian Subcontinent and Africa (as well as NYNY and Manningham, West Yorkshire )
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Sure, it's a bit harsh. Thanks for shedding light on the background.

I wish the OP all the very best with fixing his bike and himself after his collision.
I say harsh cos he was being polite which was nice, I wouldn't have been quite so tactful.

Thanks for you wishes to his getting fixed, we are after all on the same team.
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Please recap what you are talking about and write a draft of a reply that you would like to receive. That way I can copy and paste it into my reply and this will hopefully satisfy you.

Much of the world drives like tossers. If you don't like it, don't ride/drive there (probably something else you're not talking about...)
can you be so kind and tell me where I posted a question here so that I can tell you what to answer?If you do not like my well-meant information I will not change it for you only to sound like a cool rough adventurer. I would like to change many things in the world indeed and I am very well aware of the danger we live with. That you even have to be careful what to say to the ones sitting in the same boat, scares me more than the Peruvian drivers. (but this is certainly nothing you wanted to hear either)
PS where the f...is Gods own country?!
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PS where the f...is Gods own country?!
County, not country

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=god%27s+own+county
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Now that is bollox.... everyone knows Derbyshire is much better
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all good but it does not help to be assertive if you come around a corner and a bus is steering right towards you..
That is normal in Colombia, on *every* bend. But whenever the truck had the name "Dodge" emblazoned across the grill I always giggled :-)
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