hello,

i arrive in santiago chile on 01 february from paris, ride in chile bolivia peru and fly back to paris from lima on 01 march. i d be happy to meet local people and travellers there.

i want to BUY a small bike in santiago on arrival, honda cg125 style or even honda xr250 style, according to my budget : 500 euros maybe more, according to the local market. To AVOID spending too much time finding a bike on arrival : if you have any good plans, contacts, if you can help me in santiago, etc ... to get a bike like this over there (i posted before on this subject so i already know a bit and thanx to the people and local hubb communities who alreday replied me).

i m now preparing my trip a bit and focus for the moment on the BORDER CROSSINGS.

please could you confirm what i alreday searched and found, tell me if wrong, give ideas, tips :

* chile - bolivia - : arica to la paz, calama to ollague with connections to oruno and la paz, iquique to oruro via colchane/pisiga, san pedro de atacama to uyuni;
* bolivia-peru : puno and cuzco via copacabano, yunguyo and desaguadero.

thanx
happy trails

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Look in www.mercadolibre.cl or www.deremate.cl or www.vehiculosconfoto.cl

Be glad!

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Ya verás como quieren en Chile al amigo cuando es forastero (traditional song)

Jose Pedro Espinosa
Curico, Chile

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Ya verás como quieren en Chile al amigo cuando es forastero (traditional song)

Jose Pedro Espinosa
Santiago, Chile

DiasDePlaya,
thanx for the interesting internet websites.
i saw many "small" bikes like what i m looking for. all the prices are written : $. which $ is it about ?
for example, i saw :

Honda Xr250 R Japonesa Casi Nueva
Precio Final: $ 2800000.00
(compra immediata)

Moto Honda 125cg
Precio Final: $ 490000.00
(compra immediata)

i thought the local currency in peru was peso.
i read an other post : 1 EU = 620 Chilean Pesos.
in lonely planet (2004 edition) 1€ = 742 pesos and 1 usd = 644 pesos

to be clear, what would be the price of this bike in usd or euros ?
cheers.


[This message has been edited by vincent danna (edited 07 January 2006).]

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The web sites that you visited are from Chile, not Peru. In Peru the local currency is "Sol" and I don't know the change rate between Soles and Euros.
In Chile our local currency is Chilean Peso ($) and now US$1.00 = Ch$ 514, probably 1 Euro = 610 Ch$

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Ya verás como quieren en Chile al amigo cuando es forastero (traditional song)

Jose Pedro Espinosa
Curico, Chile

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Ya verás como quieren en Chile al amigo cuando es forastero (traditional song)

Jose Pedro Espinosa
Santiago, Chile

INteresting websites!

For quick and easy currency checks try xe.com

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hello
i ll have a look again at these websites. the currency is ok now, thanx.

as you can understand, the problem is i can t buy a bike like this in advance, or book it.
if you see anything interesting, pls let me know.
i ll arrive in santiago on 01 feb. hope to find a bike quickly then go.

i ve heard/read the PAPERWORK should be easy for a foreigner on a tourist visa to buy
a bike. could you confirm ? which documents are required (ownership, insurance
...) ?

then, i ve heard/read that there should be no problem to CROSS BORDERS (bolivia and peru) : could you confirm and also tell me which documents are required ?

thanx

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Hi Vincent,
We just got back from S-America. We bought an Africa Twin in Santiago( I know it's a bigger bike than you need but it's the same process). You need to get a national ID ( RUT ) number from the SII offices to buy the bike. You'll need to speak spanish to do this. once you have this number it's best to buy the bike from a bike shop as not all bikes have correct papers, also a shop will take care of the exchange of ownership etc. The process will take about a week but the final owners document will take about a month to arrive! best if you can find a friend to forward it to you once it arrives. You can cross the border without it as long as you have the tempoary doc'. if you like we will try to find the names of the bike shops we went to.Also,I found that Mercado Libre prices were not very realistic! We can try to find more info just as soon as we have unpacked our bags!! Good luck...Zade&Melissa.

Zade Alassad,
thanx for the info.
with pleasure, if you have time to look for a bike for me, thanx in advance.

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Hi Vincent,
OK I have found some info for you, I hope you understand that we are now back home in London and so can't find a bike for you, however, here are some details for you:
The shop that we got our bike is called Guarda Motos and they are on Ave Vitacura 9079 email guardamtots@entelchile.net they only speak spanish but are very helpful. there are several other bike shops on that road and one of the best is called Maico motos just around the corner from Guarda they are also very helpful (speak english if you need).The SII office website is: www.sii.cl there you can print off the form you need to get your ID number...it's called "Inscripcion al Rol Unico Tributario y/o Declaración de Inicio de Actividades".It sounds complicated but it's not too bad. The important thing is that when you get to the SII office you want a RUT number. I hope you can find a bike ok. Once you have the bike, you can travel. The documents we had were:
Certificado de Inscription (ownership papers)
Certificado Seguro Obligatorio (Insurance)
Certificado de Emisiones (roadworthy cert)
Certificado de Revision Tecnica (roadworthy cert)
Solicitud (temp ownership papers)
Compra - Venta al Contado (proof of transfer)
Guarda Motos did all this stuff for us, we just saw the bike agreed the price and paid... a few days later the papers were done and we picked the bike up, the next day we left Santiago. So as I said before, it's much easier to goto a bike shop!
Good luck and if I think of any more info I'll let you know.
P.S. If you need a good hostal in Santiago try the new Hostal Navetierra at Plaza de Armas, Calle compania 960, 6th floor. It's good and quit cheap. once you get your bike you can park it down the road at the city hotel for a small charge.
...Zade&Melissa

Zade Alassad,
thanx for the precise info.
i agrre with you, if you buy from a shop, there are more guarantees and they can help you with the paperwork.
as i m only travelling one month totally, i need to be quick on arrival to buy the bike, make the papers, etc ...
the delay (around 5 days) for the paperwork only is official i guess. did you try to make the things shorter (one or two days) , do you think it s feasable ?
thanx

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Hi Vincent,
I can only speak about our experience. The paperwork takes that long because it must be sent to a public notary and then sent to the registration authority. But once you've paid the bike shop, they give you a reciept and some of the papers (roadworthy cert etc) which means you can use the bike in the local area. Maybe in the week while you are waiting for the papers you can do a tour of the area around Santiago or go to the coast then return to the bike shop and collect the papers, OR be very nice to the shop(or find a friend in Santiago) and ask them to send the papers to you on your route..the post-restant system in Chile is very good. Also don't forget that the final ownership papers take a month or more to arrive.(ours are still not with us but we have used our bike all over Chile and Argentina and it's now on a ship, on it's way to England).We hope to contact the Chilean consul here in the uk and get a copy of the final ownership papers. Anyway, what ever you dicide to do there is always a way to do it!
Cheers...Zade & Melissa.

hello, those official links also can help maybe on the paperwork especially :
Comision Nacional de Seguridad de Transito :
http://www.conaset.cl/cms_conaset/jsp/indice.jsp
SERNATUR :
www.sernatur.cl
Federacion de motociclismo de Chile :
http://www.fmc.cl/
MC Club :
http://www.aperrados.cl/
Ownership card, insurance, documents to show to the local police and customs at the borders :
www.mtt.cl

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also :
automobile club of chile :
http://www.automovilclub.cl/home.asp
customs department in chile :
http://www.aduana.cl/p4_principal/si...principal.html

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2002 - 2004 : Un tour du monde en moto.

VERY helpful thread, thanks

edit: I also found these dealers on this site:
Motocicletas, Scooters, Cuatrimotos Chile » Distribuidores

• CASA CENTRAL VICUÑA MAKENNA
  United Motors Chile, S.A.
  Avenida Vicuña Mackenna, 1497 Santiago, Chile
  Tel.: 56-2-544-2001 / 56-2-544-2034
• SERVICIO TÉCNICO, REPUESTOS Y ACCESORIOS MIGUEL LEON PRADO
  United Motors Chile, S.A.
  Miguel León Prado No. 20 Santiago, Chile
  Tel.:56-2-544-1949
  Fax: 56-2-544-2133
• SANTIAGO
  ARANDA MOTOS
  Tel.: 7-7657541 / 8-1389325
• EXPRESS CAR
  Av. Alonzo de Córdova 5619Tel.:56 -2-2247955
• CONCEPCION
  SPORTMOTORS
  Pedro de Valdivia 754
  Tel.: 41-2795353
• TEMUCO
  MOTOSCAR
  Claro Solar 598
  Tel.: 45-210820 / 45-379993
• LOS ANGELES
  KUNHI MOTORS
  Pedro de Valdivia 754
  Tel.: 41-2795353
• VALDIVIA
  ESRMOTOS
  Pedro de Valdivia 514
  Tel.: 63 - 250386 / 63 -250386
• LA SERENA
  HANSHING
  Cordovez 415
  Tel.: 51-224952
• VIÑA DEL MAR
  JORDAN MACHINES
  13 norte 856
  Tel.: 32-472100
• PUERTO MONTT
  MOTOFRAN
  Unión 1318 Puerto Varas
  Tel.: 65-511573 / 65-235891