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Does TIP stand for Temporary import paperwork??? Just checking
TIP, TVIP Temporary (Vehicle) Import Permit - in one form or another is used by most countries from Mexico south - Brazil now excepted of course - and is roughly equivalent to the Carnet system used by many other countries (but heaps cheaper and more convenient) .
Some countries won't let you leave without taking the vehicle too, some let you leave provided you come back within the validity period of the original visa and TIP, some have different validity periods for visa and TIP, some can be extended in-country and some not. Some countries get together and have a single validity period for the total time spent in all those countries (like the Schengen zone in Europe)
No uniformity
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TIP, TVIP Temporary (Vehicle) Import Permit - in one form or another is used by most countries from Mexico south - Brazil now excepted of course - and is roughly equivalent to the Carnet system used by many other countries (but heaps cheaper and more convenient) .
Some countries won't let you leave without taking the vehicle too, some let you leave provided you come back within the validity period of the original visa and TIP, some have different validity periods for visa and TIP, some can be extended in-country and some not. Some countries get together and have a single validity period for the total time spent in all those countries (like the Schengen zone in Europe)
No uniformity
Thanks for the info Tony
Do you get the TIP/TVIP when you enter the Sth American country or do you get it before you go??

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Usual procedure when you get to a border is to go through Immigration first where you MUST make sure you get your passport stamped. They sometimes forget and then you can have trouble at the next border.
Then you go to the Aduana (Customs) where you show your passport again, plus the title and or registration papers for the vehicle. Sometimes they will come out and have a look and some even check the VIN, but not so often. They will then issue you with a sheet of paper with vehicle details, date of entry and date you have to be back out of the country. Don't lose it as you have to hand it in when you leave. Some countries have extra steps such as Chile where SAG conduct inspections for fruit and vegetables that range from extremely strict right through to the three stooges comedy. Some spray the vehicle tyres paying great attention to the outside of each tyre but not bothering with the underneath or even the inside of the tyres.

Some borders have combined border posts where you first check out of the country you are in - first Immigration and then Aduana and then move one window to the right to the Immigration and then Aduana of the next country. Sometimes you get a slip as you walk in and each window ticks one box and then there is a man collecting the slips as you drive out.

Lots of variations and sometimes there are crazy things like immigration being in a previous town and Aduana being 50 km away and down a side road (like heading out of Bolivia to Chile) or you have to pick up a bit of paper in one country for processing in the next country.
Most are very predictable and straight forward, but it pays to do some research so you don't get caught out and have to backtrack 50 miles. The central America forum on HUBB has a post on border crossings that is very comprehensive. Chile/Argentina crossings are pretty easy. Half are combined border posts and the rest are individual posts a few km apart, but sometimes a couple of hundred km apart with a huge no-mans-land - Paso Sico for instance.

Regarding the TIP - some countries have set-in-stone validity periods that are usually the same as your visa validity, but some will give you longer if you ask nicely. Argentina mostly gives 8 months TIP but only 3 months visa, but sometimes if you don't ask, they only give you 90 days.

Other thing is if you are American, Canadian or Australian, some countries operate on a payback principle and treat us as badly as our own governments treat visitors. Brazil, Bolivia, Argentina, Paraguay, Chile are examples and some of us can't just rock up to the border and be allowed in. Poms are OK though, even in Argentina. ;-)))
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Usual procedure when you get to a border is to go through Immigration first where you MUST make sure you get your passport stamped. They sometimes forget and then you can have trouble at the next border.
Then you go to the Aduana (Customs) where you show your passport again, plus the title and or registration papers for the vehicle. Sometimes they will come out and have a look and some even check the VIN, but not so often. They will then issue you with a sheet of paper with vehicle details, date of entry and date you have to be back out of the country. Don't lose it as you have to hand it in when you leave. Some countries have extra steps such as Chile where SAG conduct inspections for fruit and vegetables that range from extremely strict right through to the three stooges comedy. Some spray the vehicle tyres paying great attention to the outside of each tyre but not bothering with the underneath or even the inside of the tyres.

Some borders have combined border posts where you first check out of the country you are in - first Immigration and then Aduana and then move one window to the right to the Immigration and then Aduana of the next country. Sometimes you get a slip as you walk in and each window ticks one box and then there is a man collecting the slips as you drive out.

Lots of variations and sometimes there are crazy things like immigration being in a previous town and Aduana being 50 km away and down a side road (like heading out of Bolivia to Chile) or you have to pick up a bit of paper in one country for processing in the next country.
Most are very predictable and straight forward, but it pays to do some research so you don't get caught out and have to backtrack 50 miles. The central America forum on HUBB has a post on border crossings that is very comprehensive. Chile/Argentina crossings are pretty easy. Half are combined border posts and the rest are individual posts a few km apart, but sometimes a couple of hundred km apart with a huge no-mans-land - Paso Sico for instance.

Regarding the TIP - some countries have set-in-stone validity periods that are usually the same as your visa validity, but some will give you longer if you ask nicely. Argentina mostly gives 8 months TIP but only 3 months visa, but sometimes if you don't ask, they only give you 90 days.

Other thing is if you are American, Canadian or Australian, some countries operate on a payback principle and treat us as badly as our own governments treat visitors. Brazil, Bolivia, Argentina, Paraguay, Chile are examples and some of us can't just rock up to the border and be allowed in. Poms are OK though, even in Argentina. ;-)))
Tony
Thanks for all the info, I am British so i think its a little easier haha.

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much easier? maybe NOT in Argentina! "Las Malvinas son argentinas" : )
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Can't be all that bad despite the huge signs down south. We drove a British registered iveco complete with big GB sticker around for 6 months and never had the slightest problem - although maybe all the kangaroo and map of Australia stickers all over it may have distracted the locals - of the fact that it was a RHD vehicle and they must be pretty rare judging by the bemusement of everyone including the police.
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I had proper EU GB stickers on the licence plates plus the oval GB sticker as well so it was unmistakeably British
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Tony LEE, your information is PRICELESS! The fog of confusion is slowly clearing. Now to remember it all...

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We have all "heard" about this - and I would really, really like it to be true, but until we have first hand accounts - several rather than just one - of someone entering with their vehicle, spending most of their allocated 90 days travelling around, then flying out and returning months after the 90 days and then driving out without problems, I don't see that it would be wise to assume anything just because a TIP isn't issued. All it would take is for the vehicle to be noted on the computer against the passport.
So far there have been a couple of accounts of the initial entry, but nothing about collecting the vehicle months after flying out - or for that matter, even flying out and leaving the vehicle behind within the 90 days..

I'm guessing I'll be a testcase. I bought a bike from somebody here on the forum which is now stationed in Foz de Iguacu. He already went home, I'm picking it up in 2,5 months, and hope to drive clear out of Brazil. Hoping I won't have too much trouble.
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More than two years låter, I have not had any problems. left Brazil, entered first Argentina, then Chile and Bolivia.Now on my way back to Brazil. Hopefully to do the same again...
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