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are friends of mine allowed to drive with my colombian motorcyle in colombia ?
Hello experts,
I have a question about Colombia. If I buy a new motorcycle from a dealer in Colombia and register it in Colombia, insure it in Colombia and also store it there:
Are friends of mine allowed to enter Colombia and drive my motorcycle in Colombia from a registration and insurance perspective even if I'm not there?
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Maybe if the borrowers are on the insurance papers and there names and passport> drivers licence numbers are on the insurance and are notarized officially But for every name other then the owner will be charged a premium for insurance this is all hypothetical but you never know, this can be done in Canada you only have to pay, lots a money if others dont have a good driving record
This is a tricky subject Cops don't aways know the rules but if you bombard them with papers they may give up
Why not give it shot! you'll never know until you try
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22 Sep 2021
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Registration - anyone can ride your bike with your permission. Now, it's probably a good idea to write a letter giving that permission, to show the traffic police that you've done so.
Insurance SOAT - you need SOAT and as long as you have this, once again, anyone can ride the bike as far as legal minimum insurance is concerned.
Insurance other than SOAT - This will depend on the policy. If you have a policy covering anyone then anyone can ride the bike (obviously). If you have a policy restricted to named riders then you need to get your friends included in the policy.
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I live in Colombia and can confirm the accuracy of the last post by Alanymarce.
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soats is tied to the motorcycle, no problem there. But imagine your friend has an accident, I don't want to be in your shoes and in the shoes of your friend. The owner of the other vehicle could claim for damage done to his vehicle. I don't know if you or your friends are fluent in Spanish, but if it was me, though I'm functional in Spanish, my Colombian native wife or any Colombians that I have for friend would tell me that I look for trouble ''dar papaya'', that is to open the door to all kind of abuse. The papaya is a beautiful fruit, that is big and easy to reach, very easy to pick it up. In other words you or your friends could be screwed up easily.
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I live in Medellin full time 5 years and had a bike but sold it 3 years ago after I purchased my car.
So the advice given above is correct but you don't know what you don't know, suppose this happens:
Your in the US and you have a friend on your bike here in Colombia, your friend gets stopped and just maybe some document is not in order so......the transito tows the bike, now there the bike sits until YOU the owner pays any fees and costs and retrieves it, when? The bike will sit in a yard until you, the registered owner, comes and retrieves it but what if your not in Colombia for some months.
Additionally gawd forbid your friend gets into an accident, I know as I see 2 or 3 motorcycle accidents EVERY time I drive into Medellin, does your friend speak Spanish? Does he know the process for what to do when there is an accident?
Is your friend licensed to drive/operate a motorcycle in Colombia?
It is all at risk, me personally I would never lend my bike out rather I parked it in my secure garage parking space as I did not want the hassles when I was back visiting family and friends in California.
And what if the bike gets stolen? You are SOL and bikes get stolen all the time here.
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I'm sure I'm in the minority of motorcyclists for feeling this way, but...
friends don't ask friends if they can borrow their motorcycle.
I've lent my car out to friends and family many times without hesitation. It's just a useful box on wheels, and I have no personal attachment to it. If they were to wreck it I would shrug it off.
But if I lent them one of my motorcycles, and they wrecked it, my emotional reaction would be very, very different. I don't lend my bike out, and I don't ask others if they'll let me borrow their ride. Just my personal opinion - feel free to disagree. 
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Originally Posted by South America Voyager
I live in Medellin full time 5 years and had a bike but sold it 3 years ago after I purchased my car.
So the advice given above is correct but you don't know what you don't know, suppose this happens:
Your in the US and you have a friend on your bike here in Colombia, your friend gets stopped and just maybe some document is not in order so......the transito tows the bike, now there the bike sits until YOU the owner pays any fees and costs and retrieves it, when? The bike will sit in a yard until you, the registered owner, comes and retrieves it but what if your not in Colombia for some months.
Additionally gawd forbid your friend gets into an accident, I know as I see 2 or 3 motorcycle accidents EVERY time I drive into Medellin, does your friend speak Spanish? Does he know the process for what to do when there is an accident
Is your friend licensed to drive/operate a motorcycle in Colombia?
It is all at risk, me personally I would never lend my bike out rather I parked it in my secure garage parking space as I did not want the hassles when I was back visiting family and friends in California.
And what if the bike gets stolen? You are SOL and bikes get stolen all the time here.
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Imagine leaving the parking lot with intentions of a nice ride, Then around the first corner is a Check stop with Transito Cops and they flag you over The borrower probably thinks ahh routine traffic stop No problem I have my shit together, then the tansit cop looks at your plate and asks you for your Carnet de Propedad and so on. Then he says PicoPlaca and your operating a vehicle with the corresponding last number on the plate that is prohibited on that day of the week or one Saturday a month
Your busted your bike is impounded and the owner is the only one that can get the bike out of impound after going thru a Mill of bureaucracy and paying 15 days of Colombian wages to get it out, Ah sorry sir I did not know
I have met a few foreigners with Colombian plated bikes that dont even know about Pico Placa, Believe Me you dont want to go there its Molino de Mierdas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tohellnback
Imagine leaving the parking lot with intentions of a nice ride, Then around the first corner is a Check stop with Transito Cops and they flag you over The borrower probably thinks ahh routine traffic stop No problem I have my shit together, then the tansit cop looks at your plate and asks you for your Carnet de Propedad and so on. Then he says PicoPlaca and your operating a vehicle with the corresponding last number on the plate that is prohibited on that day of the week or one Saturday a month
Your busted your bike is impounded and the owner is the only one that can get the bike out of impound after going thru a Mill of bureaucracy and paying 15 days of Colombian wages to get it out, Ah sorry sir I did not know
I have met a few foreigners with Colombian plated bikes that dont even know about Pico Placa, Believe Me you dont want to go there its Molino de Mierdas
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This exactly what would happen. Here in Medellin they just re-started the pico y placa and it is much different than in years past and they change it seemingly at will so, it is now single digit for both cars and motor bikes.
And yes only the registered owner can retrieve it out of impound, I know as one time I had my bike towed/impounded and only me could retrieve it.
Fortunately for me my good Colombian friend has friends in Trasito (his old GF from the university so he took one for the team so to speak hehe) so a quick call and he came and negotiated the release of my bike by nights end for a small fee of like 100 mil but then had to take my friend out to the local bar and spent a 100 mil on rum for his help, hehehehe.
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lender beware
I happened to me they took my f700 7 am in January and I wish I knew someone in transito
you have to book a course and I was lucky to attend the 3 hr. course the same day my bike was impounded I am good in Spanish but it was still difficult to figure out where to pay
after paying 550 thousand pesos in 3 different administrations in the transito Mill
I was good to get my Moto 4;45 in the afternoon The yard closes at 5
The impound yard was about the size of three football Pitches with thousands of motos wow !
A friend of mine down here said if your moto had been in the yard over night
he guarantied that all the Auxiliary lights would be gone by the time the yard opened the next day It happened to his Moto
Be Careful and google pico placa in whatever city you are in in Colombia if you have a Colombian plated bike a parking ticket or traffic ticket is the same they will confiscate your bike Be Aware this is Real
laudyda welcome to Colombia
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lender beware
I can't believe anyone would even post a question like the original poster
lending a moto in a developing country like Colombia answer is NO
it would not cross my mind in a hundred years not mattering how much experience any body can experiance For a Answer
Colombia is a left wing government You have no rights they will catch you off guard they make the laws when they feel is right
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Quote:
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I can't believe anyone would even post a question like the original poster
lending a moto in a developing country like Colombia answer is NO
it would not cross my mind in a hundred years not mattering how much experience any body can experiance For a Answer
Colombia is a left wing government You have no rights they will catch you off guard they make the laws when they feel is right
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I will set aside my disgreement with tohellnback's opinion (everyone's entitled to an opinion), however will respond to the statement that Colombia's government is left wing - perhaps it's left wing compared with a few extreme right governments around the world, however by any global measure the current government is right wing.
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I would think more about all the worst case scenarios first.
1. Your friend hits a kid running across the street and kills him. Guess who the lawyers are going to come after. Both your friend and you.
Even if you are lending your bike to an experienced motorcyclist, Medellin is one of the worst cities to be riding a motorcycle in. I would think harder about whether you are really doing a "favor" or not by lending your motorcycle to your friends.
I've lent a vehicle to a friend before and had him rack up $20k + in damages from a crash. Do not forget that it is "your insurance" that covers their crash. Good luck in getting money out of the friend to fix your motorcycle.
Is your friend really going to take the same care in making sure that your bike does not get stolen, that you would take?
It sounds like motorcycles being impounded in Medellin is pretty common. That is not worth the risk.
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Bloody hell I was chuckling as this thread went in search of Alice.
Many many years ago I did basic training and the class always had “what if” questions, to which the Sgt would eventually say;
“Yeah, what if my dog had sex with your cat?”
So many what if’s that complicate the question;
“Are friends of mine allowed to enter Colombia and drive my motorcycle in Colombia from a registration and insurance perspective even if I'm not there?”
The answer appears to be yes they can.
Everything else is a cat and a dog.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alanymarce
I will set aside my disgreement with tohellnback's opinion (everyone's entitled to an opinion), however will respond to the statement that Colombia's government is left wing - perhaps it's left wing compared with a few extreme right governments around the world, however by any global measure the current government is right wing.
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Alan the # 1 principle of of democracy is Safety to the public, when was the last time you crossed the street at a crosswalk and I'm not talking about the only crosswalk in Colombia that I have seen in this country, its on the golden mile in Medellin near McDonalds that has a button you push and a red light stops traffic for pedestrians
If you had any rights in this country you wouldn't have to worry about getting run over walking across the crosswalk to the next street
lord help you and foreign immigration if you are in a wheel chair or blind What Rights do you have, it is ironic most people that have discapisities are pedestrians-cyclists and small moto riders in Colombia
Call it what you want L or R wing I dont know the difference here or is it right is good left is bad its based on opinion and believes
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