Originally Posted by mollydog

Great time to go! The High Andes are a bit unpredictable. Can get cold anywhere over about 2500 mtrs. especially in Peru' and Bolivia.
October to March is Summer in Chile and Argentina. Northern Argentina from November to March can be very hot. December in Ushuaia is high Summer but it can rain anytime but generally mild weather in the 50's/60's.

What type of "heated liners" are you using? The Warm & Safe and Gerbing are what I own. I've used heated jackets/Vests since the 80's and wouldn't leave home without one.

I'd much prefer my Gerbing to an extra jacket (Marmot). Why would you need this and how would you use it? Don't you already have waterproof riding jackets? Probably the $800 BMW ones, right? Last I checkeed, they are waterproof. If you have room and like a more casual jacket, then bring it, otherwise, leave it.

My Gerbing packs pretty small and can save your butt. As Canadians I would have thought you would be well aware of this, since you guys have Winter nine months of the year!

The Gerbing, for me, means NO additional layers to maintain warmth, only a thin synthetic long sleeve t-shirt, the Gerbing and riding jacket. This works down to about 25F. Colder than that and I worry about ice. Warms up? Turn off heat and open vents. No need to change or lose layers. This is the beauty of the Gerbing. Fewer layers, less bulk! Less to carry!

For serious rain, Frog Toggs are good and cheap. The Frog Togg pants work well for the money ($70 or so.) Pack to nothing!

Safe ride!

Patrick