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I like these posts where the initial poster asks a question, makes a decision and we get to keep on posting comments anyways, even if he doesn't care any longer...
I tried a dual approach. First off I added about ten pounds of fat languishing in Buenos Aires and stuffing my gullet daily. This was good for about an extra 5 degrees of temperature tolerance. I recommend this but your doctor may disagree.
Second, I ignored the questioning looks from Chuck and the others and with help from Sebastian finally cobbled together a homemade heated vest. No one even died in the process. The heated vest was invaluable but this was June and it got down to -5 in TDF. At the time of year you suggest it will provide added comfort but IMHO it wouldn't at all be essential.
My suggestion, and I'd have to put this a the top of my gear suggestions to anyone, is to leave half your layers at home and take a simple, insulated jacket filled with synthetic fibers. (for example - MEC Physique Jacket, available at Outdoor Gear - Mountain Equipment Co-op (MEC) - Équipement d'activités de grande nature)
This isn't a new idea by any means, in many winter and summer sports this is an essential piece of gear and many, many people carry them. For example the ski tourers toss them in their pack and when you hit the top after a long skin up, they just toss on the jacket once they stop. For rock climbers, even in summer, you keep in your pack and toss it on for long belays when you are sitting up high and out of the sun when it can cool off surprisingly fast.
I take mine everywhere, I mean everywhere (camping, skiing, climbing, hiking, motorcycling, etc.) and it has the benefit of adding true warmth when you need it (eg. desert ones where it gets downright cold at night) and unzipped can provide added comfort in even moderately cool climates. If you size it correctly, it fits over a layer of fleece and under your riding jacket.
It's windproof, water repellant (if you get the one with the treated shell) and also can be used as the second jacket when you head out at night and are sick of wearing the smelly, dirt stained riding gear or just for hanging around the camp fire. And it stuffs into a small stuff sack, not much bigger than a couple of pieces of fleece but much more versatile. No kidding, it's one of the pieces from other sports that so elemental that I'm really surprised that I haven't seen more of them out there.
Bu ten pounds via or asados is always a good parallel plan
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