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Information wanted from experienced bikers in South America
Hi all,
Lets start by saying that I am a complete newbie: in south-America (i only arrived 1,5 week ago in Peru) and on the HU website as well (member since three days). I guess I heave a lot to learn.. I am very much hoping that someone can share his experience with me or can give me a useful link.
My plan is to travel 8 months trough south america. Right now I am staying near Truijllo, Northern Peru for two months. I would like to get my motor drivers licence there. First question: does anybody have any experience getting his drivers licence in Peru? What burocratic stuff would i have to get trough? I´d love to hear about it.
Then i would like to buy a bike in peru and drive trough bolivia, chile and argentina. I´m flying back from buenos aires in 8 months. Second question: Is it possible at all to buy a bike in Peru, drive it all the way to argentina and then sell it there?
Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
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Jeroen
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7 Dec 2009
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Second question: It is not possible sell a second hand bike in Argentine.
Anyway, ask me about Peru, Chile, Bolivia and Argentine. I will like help you.
Welcome to Southamerica and the bikes.
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Concerning buying bikes in SA, you might be better of buying a US registered bike if you plan to leave the country of purchase. This way you don't have to deal with local registration and problems selling it in another SA country. This way you can tour around where ever you want in SA and sell it again to an other tourist who want to tour around.
Right now I have a US registered bike stored here in Southern Colombia for an Australian who want to sell it. There one more Australian wanting to sell driving around here in Colombia as well. I'll PM you a link to the details as I'm banned from posting links!
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Originally Posted by joentje100
Hi all,
Lets start by saying that I am a complete newbie: in south-America (i only arrived 1,5 week ago in Peru) and on the HU website as well (member since three days). I guess I heave a lot to learn.. I am very much hoping that someone can share his experience with me or can give me a useful link.
My plan is to travel 8 months trough south america. Right now I am staying near Truijllo, Northern Peru for two months. I would like to get my motor drivers licence there. First question: does anybody have any experience getting his drivers licence in Peru? What burocratic stuff would i have to get trough? I´d love to hear about it.
Then i would like to buy a bike in peru and drive trough bolivia, chile and argentina. I´m flying back from buenos aires in 8 months. Second question: Is it possible at all to buy a bike in Peru, drive it all the way to argentina and then sell it there?
Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
Regards,
Jeroen
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Answers Round 2
Joente100, following your several threads is sort of like herding cats.
Here is my answer on your other thread, xfiltrate
Need more details...
Jeroen, a used Argentine registered bike can be sold, or purchased in Argentina by a foreign tourist, only if the the owner, (the person to whom the vehicle/moto is registered) is present. The owner listed on the title must be present, present documentation, provide verification that all yearly taxes have been paid and a certification that the bike has not been reported stolen.
I would like to share what I know, but need more info from you, before I can answer your question.
Here are some general guidelines.
If you do identify an Argentine registered bike in Peru it would have entered Peru under the rules and regulations of a Temporary Vehicle Import Permit, issued to the owner at the border when the bike entered Peru.
In Peru, as in most South American countries it is clear that it is illegal to sell or buy vehicles/motorcycles that have been issued a Temporary Vehicle Import Permits, until the vehicle/moto is officially registered in the country that has issued the Temporary Vehicle Import Permit. The majority of South American countries levy a steep import tax on foreign registered vehicles/motorcycles before the title can be transferred from the country where the vehicle/moto is registered to the country that has issued the Temporary Import Permit.
Generally speaking, only citizens of the country or official permanent foreign residents can have a foreign registered vehicle/moto that entered on a Temporary Vehicle Import Permit (TVIP) registered in the country that issued the TVIP. The title transfer process is a lengthy procedure and the import tax is calculated well over half the determined value of the vehicle/moto.
So it would be impossible for you, who might be a foreign tourist in Peru, to buy or sell a foreign registered bike that has entered Peru on a TVIP.
On the other hand you as a foreign tourist could legally buy a new or used motorcycle in Argentina, tour Argentina and then legally sell your Argentine registered bike in Argentina, no problem.
What you might not be able to do is leave Argentina with the bike. Like Chile, Argentina imposes strict export regulations on foreign tourists who have legally purchased motorcycles in Argentina.
I do not know if there are similar restrictions on foreign tourists exporting their legally purchased Peruvian registered motorcycle. For that matter, you would need to consult with someone else.
I need more details of your plan, before I can comment on your specific situation. Hope this helps
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Thanks!
He guys,
Thanks so much for your accurate replies! It is really useful for me. I´m starting to think that buying a US registered bike is indeed the best option. Mike, thanks for sending me the link. Some nice bikes indeed! Actually I´m on a rather tight budget and had i had planned maximum $3000 for a motor but I´ll give it some thought..
Xfiltrate, sorry for al the threats but it took me while to find out where to place the thread.
If anyone else has a US registred bike for sale near north Peru: let me know!
Regards,
Jeroen
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You're welcome Jeroen.
I thinks for all the bikes, the prices the owners have posted are negotiable. Send them an offer directly if you're interested in one of them. I only list the bikes on my site to help out, I have nothing to do with the sales.
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He guys,
Thanks so much for your accurate replies! It is really useful for me. I´m starting to think that buying a US registered bike is indeed the best option. Mike, thanks for sending me the link. Some nice bikes indeed! Actually I´m on a rather tight budget and had i had planned maximum $3000 for a motor but I´ll give it some thought..
Xfiltrate, sorry for al the threats but it took me while to find out where to place the thread.
If anyone else has a US registred bike for sale near north Peru: let me know!
Regards,
Jeroen
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Joentje100, could you clarify how you are going to purchase a motorcycle registered in the United States, with a title and plates issued and the property of one of the 50 United States in Peru?
When the owner of any foreign registered bike enters his bike into Peru he is issued a Temporary Vehicle Import Permit , valid for several months only, and if Peru is abiding by international agreements, that bike cannot be sold in Peru, without first paying import taxes, and registering the bike in Peru.
And, only the owner listed on the Temporary Vehicle Import Permit (TVIP) can exit the bike from Peru if he/she does it within the time limit allowed on the Temporary Vehicle Import Permit. If TVIP is expired, the motorcycle has a good chance of being impounded and a hefty fine levied on the owner before the motorcycle is released. Peru has a very modern system of keeping track of vehicles admitted with TVIPs.
Considering the expense, time and difficulty involved in securing the TRANSFER OF TITLE of the motorcycle from the State of the United States where the bike is registered, obtaining an "apostile," having the title translated into spanish by a Peruvian certified translator, legalizing the document, returning the US License plate to the department of transportation in the State where the bike is registered, your minimal budget, paying the very expensive import taxes, and then finding a Peruvian or a Foreign Permanent resident of Peru willing buy the motorcycle, register the bike in Peru and then legally sell it to you,
I do not understand why you are advertising to purchase a USA registered motorcycle in Northern Peru?
Could you explain?
And please remember to check with Peru customs, if you as a foreign tourist are permitted to exit a Peruvian registered motorcycle from Peru. As explained in my last post I do not know the answer to this question. I would like to know, if you find out. thanks..
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