1Likes
|
|
14 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 78
|
|
International driving permit - required or not?
Hey folks,
Was having a discussion with someone who plans to do a bit of overland driving in South America, and they were adamant that an International Driving Permit was required to do so and that not to have one was foolish. I am of the opinion it's a "nice to have" thing - a little like a scarf on a cold day - but not much else. But was curious what the prevailing opinion/experiences was on Hubb from those who have actually done this more recently and/or more extensively?
Cheers.
|
14 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 118
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by deeve007
Was having a discussion with someone who plans to do a bit of overland driving in South America, and they were adamant that an International Driving Permit was required to do so and that not to have one was foolish. I am of the opinion it's a "nice to have" thing - a little like a scarf on a cold day - but not much else. But was curious what the prevailing opinion/experiences was on Hubb from those who have actually done this more recently and/or more extensively?.
|
Officially required, but in practice never asked for. I've been in every country in the region, stopped by police and military many time, and never once has anyone asked for the international permit. You do need valid non-expired driver permit, vehicle registration, passport, and insurance.
In prior years I carried the international permit since that was the official requirement, but now i only carry an expired international permit as i don't see the value in paying for a new one. As said, never once has anyone asked for or cared to see the international permit.
|
14 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 78
|
|
"Officially required", really? Do you have any source(s) to confirm this, would be interested to learn differently to what I've been told a few times (once from a lawyer with experience in the area)?
-----
Not that I'll believe everything found online... ...but this confirms what I've been told in the past: http://www.worldlawdirect.com/articl...s-license.html
"Nice" to have mostly because it translates your licence into multiple languages.
|
14 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 118
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by deeve007
"Officially required", really? Do you have any source(s) to confirm this, would be interested to learn differently to what I've been told a few times (once from a lawyer with experience in the area)
|
7 years ago when I did my first trip to the region I researched the driving requirements for driving. I wrote down the results for each country. Some of the countries require an International Driving Permit, while others require a Inter-American Driving Permit.
I don't remember where i found the information or a link to it. You can search if you like.
|
16 Oct 2014
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: RTW, From Vancouver BC 2012
Posts: 3,559
|
|
DL
We just spent 20 month from Inuvik to Ushuaia. You do not need an IDL. We got them before we left in 2012. We were never asked for it. I never met anyone who was. Sara
|
16 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Location: East Yorkshireman...in the Chum Phae area, Thailand
Posts: 1,333
|
|
Don't know what country you are in but according to the UK AA then this is the list of countries you should have one for however as members have said you may not need it
IDP requirements by country | AA
Wayne
|
16 Oct 2014
|
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bellingham, WA, USA
Posts: 3,969
|
|
I don't think very highly of the various lists put out by national automobile clubs--they say the same sorts of things about the need for carnets. They're often totally full of it....or at least sadly mistaken or woefully out-of-date.
Unlike others posting above, I've needed my IDP a couple of times--once in South America (I think it was Guyana), once in West Africa (probably Ghana), and once or twice more in other scattered places. I've also used them when engaged in the standard gambit of piling on document after document to stun local functionaries, but that's a different story. So the moral here is that you never need an IDP....until you need it.
Kind've like genuine registration or licensing documents--I've used photocopies and/or defunct documents all over Latin America, parts of Asia and Africa, plus the entirety of Europe. Everything goes fine for months or years, until finally someone demands the real thing when I've almost forgotten I'm using fakes. That happened to me in Eastern Europe--no problems whatsoever until I entered Ukraine for the second time. It also happened in Central America, although I've forgotten which country: Honduras, maybe?
It gets more likely you'll need an IDP if you ever want to rent a vehicle. That's worth keeping in mind.
Hope this is helpful.
Mark
|
17 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 78
|
|
I needed it twice. Once to rent a car in Buenos Aires. Second time to show to the corrupt police chap in Bolivia after he radared me doing 90kph on a 10km straight stretch of road with no traffic where the limit was 80kph.
For the hassle it takes to get an IDP (2 photos, £15 and a stamped return envelope) I think I'd rather go with than without, but of course different horses for different courses....
|
18 Oct 2014
|
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 672
|
|
I'd rather give my IDF that cost me £5 from the AA than my £20 UK driving licence, to a bent cop, just in case they don't play ball and I don't get it back...
|
18 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: santiago, chile
Posts: 124
|
|
I travelled all the Américas and you don't need it
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Santiago-Ushuaia-Alaska Right Now!!!
america2ruedas.blogspot.com
|
18 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Location: East Yorkshireman...in the Chum Phae area, Thailand
Posts: 1,333
|
|
Clearly its a case of YOU MIGHT need it, its only a fiver.....If you need it, great you have got it and if you don't...so what it was only a fiver and I agree with Fern
Wayne
|
19 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 27
|
|
I'm an Aussie riding around in the USA at present. I was stopped by a friendly highway patrol officer in California who said I didn't need one for Cal anyway.
I dosent hurt to have though. Never got stopped in Mexico so not sure?
|
20 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 3
|
|
International driving permit - required or not?
I bought two before I left for Central and South America. They expired before anyone ever asked to see them. They're still expired, and no one has yet asked.
Here's what I've found useful: make translations of your vehicle ownership and registration documents into Spanish. Do the same for your license. Carry the copies and hide your originals in a safe place.
Border agents often need help finding information on these documents to input into their computers if they can't read English.
|
20 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NSW Australia - but never there
Posts: 1,235
|
|
Advice we give on these sorts of forums should be very strongly skewed towards the principle of "doing no harm".
Those who continue to offer advice on the false premise that since they didn't need to do XYZ, then nobody needs to do XYZ (or even worse, don't need to do ABC either) aren't doing people any favours.
|
21 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NSW Australia - but never there
Posts: 1,235
|
|
Yes, but idle reflections are useful too.
Interesting difference between someone relating an experience for information, and someone advocating a course of action by others based on getting away with it..
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Next HU Events
ALL Dates subject to change.
2025 Confirmed Events:
- Virginia: April 24-27 2025
- Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
- Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
- CanWest: July 10-13 2025
- Switzerland: Date TBC
- Ecuador: Date TBC
- Romania: Date TBC
- Austria: Sept. 11-15
- California: September 18-21
- France: September 19-21 2025
- Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025
Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!
Questions about an event? Ask here
See all event details
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|