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Hey guys, thank you for the kind words. I was kind of shaken up a little bit yesterday but that is it. I knew he was not going to shoot me during the situation but did my best to act damn scared.
I did not report the situation last night and waited until the morning to ask an english speaker of my new motorcyclist friend here. The guy told me that it was best not to report it here because it is a different province. He said that I should report it tomorrow to the Federal Police in Posada.
It kind of ticks me off that there is not a better system for reporting something like this, but I guess it would be the same situation if it happened in N.A.
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You will get good and bad guys in all walks of life. It took me a long time to learn this. In my youth I assumed All the cops to be upright citizens as we had a mutual respect for our local bobbies. Then 30 miles from home I was done for speeding when I wasn't. The cop not only lied about the speed, but fabricated the entire event. At that time I simply could not believe a cop would lie in order to get a bogus speeding conviction. Since then (winter of 1963) I have lumped all UK cops together and not only do I not trust them I dont like them around,, view them the same way i would as a gang of drunken hoodie wearing youths. do not like either around me at all. Gradually I am beginning to trust the French ones.. but no doubt there are good and bad ones here too.
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It kind of ticks me off that there is not a better system for reporting something like this, but I guess it would be the same situation if it happened in N.A.
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That is why it happened--there is not a better system to report it! However, and not to say that NA is so great, but there are more checks and balances, at least in the US (i.e. FBI, greedy lawyers, state police vs. local police and vice versa depending on which police did you wrong, sheriff's department, etc)
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Hey GatoGato-
That totally sucks, and it must have been scary. I know how you feel. I had corrupt cops in Peru stop me and demand $200. Five times!
I'm very impressed with your travels. I'm in BA for a few days. If you want to meet up, let me know, and I'll buy the  . Dinner too.
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This just may be a wild ass guess but it seems to me after reading numerous posts at various websites that many of the riders who get nailed by a corrupt cop were riding a high profile bike like a BMW GS for example. No offense intended, just an observation on my part that may or may not be based on fact. I'd love to have another BMW, but really do not want any attention drawn to me from a crooked cop. BMWs are like a candle to a moth when it comes to cops south of the border.
I ride an old beat up bike that looks like crap but gets me anywhere I want to go. Yes it takes me longer, but then that's not such a bad thing. More time to savor the flavor along the way. So far, (cross my fingers), I've not rolled across any cops who have asked for a mordita.
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Argentine motorcycle/fire extinguisher Law with translation
Ley Nacional de Transito #24.449
Art.40 Requisitos para circular, INS: F
"Oue posea matafuegos y balizas porttatiles normalizados, "EXCEPTO LAS MOTOCICLETAS"
TRANSLATION:
National Traffic Law #24,449
Art 40 Requirements to drive, INS F
That has fire extinguisher and triangles markers (reflectors), "EXCEPT MOTORCYCLES"
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And, "Art 3 - Garantia de Libertad de transito.
Art 3 - Guaranty of Free Transit...
TRANSLATION: "Free Transit guaranty/ It's forbidden the retention or detention or the driver, his documents, and/or his license for any reason, except the situation speecificallh contemplated in this law or ordered by a Judge in charge."
Sorry I did not post this immediately, I have been touring. Above is the current law regarding fire extinguishers and safety triangles for motorcycles in Argentina. Some provinces do require automobiles to carry a blanket (to cover the dead resulting from an accident) but I could not find this law, and most of us travel with towels or sleeping bags that would qualify as a blanket.
The ART 3 insures, by law, no retention or detention of a driver/rider without the violation of a specific law.
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Hope this helps. Gatogato, once again you made it through. In Argentina when an officer draws his/her weapon, the incident, by policy, is to be reported by the officer to his/her superior. this is serious, very serious and you are very skilled and lucky to have "walked." I would report this to the Argentine Automobile Club. ACA office you first encounter. ACA is a powerful political force and has been known to help clean up ruta 14 in the past by actually passing on reports from tourists to the highest levels of Argentine government. (ACA offices throughout Argentina) Get locations from ACA (yellow gas stations)
Please post results of your reports to authorities regarding this incident and make a copy of the law above. xfiltrate
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xfiltrate
Ley Nacional de Transito #24.449
Art.40 Requisitos para circular, INS: F
"Oue posea matafuegos y balizas porttatiles normalizados, "EXCEPTO LAS MOTOCICLETAS"
TRANSLATION:
National Traffic Law #24,449
Art 40 Requirements to drive, INS F
That has fire extinguisher and triangles markers (reflectors), "EXCEPT MOTORCYCLES"
_________________________________________________
And, "Art 3 - Garantia de Libertad de transito.
Art 3 - Guaranty of Free Transit...
TRANSLATION: "Free Transit guaranty/ It's forbidden the retention or detention or the driver, his documents, and/or his license for any reason, except the situation speecificallh contemplated in this law or ordered by a Judge in charge."
Sorry I did not post this immediately, I have been touring. Above is the current law regarding fire extinguishers and safety triangles for motorcycles in Argentina. Some provinces do require automobiles to carry a blanket (to cover the dead resulting from an accident) but I could not find this law, and most of us travel with towels or sleeping bags that would qualify as a blanket.
The ART 3 insures, by law, no retention or detention of a driver/rider without the violation of a specific law.
Please post results of your reports to authorities regarding this incident and make a copy of the law above. xfiltrate
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Ed the translation similarities to the one we posted in 2005 are amazing!
You can say we are on the same wave but….
What a coincident! Woww!!!!!
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...rgentina-13295
Saludos
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And even more ammunition
http://www.smellybiker.com/arg_cops.doc
Just change the dates and Robert's your mothers brother.
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This just may be a wild ass guess but it seems to me after reading numerous posts at various websites that many of the riders who get nailed by a corrupt cop were riding a high profile bike like a BMW GS for example. No offense intended, just an observation on my part that may or may not be based on fact. I'd love to have another BMW, but really do not want any attention drawn to me from a crooked cop. BMWs are like a candle to a moth when it comes to cops south of the border.
I ride an old beat up bike that looks like crap but gets me anywhere I want to go. Yes it takes me longer, but then that's not such a bad thing. More time to savor the flavor along the way. So far, (cross my fingers), I've not rolled across any cops who have asked for a mordita.
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I think you are on the right track. When I had my bike duck taped I was never stopped by the police, but now (in Argentina at least) it seems like they always want to stop me and check my papers.
BTW: Do not ask Argentinian police for directions. Almost everyone I asked for directions made me show them my passport and bike papers first. grrr!
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