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To the CanoeGuy and all the Gatagato Haters,
Whoa guys...lets not start the hating that's equally awful to the negative comments GG initially posted...
Karma is a b*ch and its not worth jinxing ourselves with the wisdom of retrospect.
I think he gets it...and not because of our posts.
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Originally Posted by gatogato
Hey guys, sorry if I have been ragging on South America lately. That was not my intention.
The message of this post should be to always take extra precautions with money when traveling (especially in lower income countries) and not to get lazy with your money ever like I did.
This is an embarrasing subject to talk about. I did not tell any of my friends at home and I only write about it here to try and help others make the same mistakes.
I know these kind of things happen to others on the Hubb, but many are far too proud to post about it or relate to it.
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Ola Gato!
These guys have given you a hard time! Stony-hearted, steely eyed bikers.....
Think of it this way - you werent stripped naked so it was a (relatively) cheap lesson - BUT ONLY IF YOU DONT LET HAPPEN AGAIN!
Did you put her out to "work" to recoup your losses?
Buen viaje!
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Originally Posted by mika
hola gatogato,
everytime I come to the HUBB I see a new thread of yours, accidents, difficulties selling the bike, corrupt police and so on.
you know, if you are always negative, of course you will always attract negative situations.
your are on my favourite continent, and believe me, I have seen a bit of the world.
please stop telling everybody in every of your posts how dangerous South America is.
I spend two years, and 80.000km on the bike in South America. Two of the best years of my life. And I did not have any problems that I did not cause myself. Even when the police in Brazil handcuffed me, I was about to beat up a young stupid car driver.
BsAs is one of my favourite places, so dont be stupid and leave your money somewhere in a corner and than complain.
Saludos
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Agree with Mika 100%
and Dan 99.99 % but
00.01% off for spelling mistakes ;-)
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Gato Gato = 14 lifes?
Geoff, i met you shortly at our HU bunker in BA(means DAKARMOTOS).Reading the diferent postings here i would say that i was never robed here or in any place i was before.Maybe because i know if you give the oportunity.....they will take it.
It is of course sad to hear it in that way.And i know of other traveller who was robed a lot more of his back pack recently(another unlucky bike traveller who recently visited us) and didn´t post that here. THAT IS BASIC TRAVELLER KNOLEDGE!
Maybe you should change your id for GATO GATO got robed by one GATO(kind of a girl friend here,hahahaha)
Enjoy our city man! and don´t run out of lifes!!!
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Originally Posted by albert crutcher
To all the grouch old farts,I,m damn sure that you knew it all when you were 23,but then again I doubt it!!! This daft young lad has kept a whole load of us entertained at his laddish adventures around the continent of South America and we,ve all had the chance to pick holes in his naivety,some of us shout and complain,some of us just enjoy having a giggle at his youthfull enthusiasm.
I for one will be sorry when the daft bugger is gone and all thats left are all the grouchy tossers.
Que Viva GatoGato.
Aye and keep yer money in yer ****ing pocket from now on
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Thanks for the kind words Albert.
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Originally Posted by Dan 23
Hey Bert,
I'm all for naive cock-ups and laddish adventures - shit, I've made a living from them - but gatogato's tendency to follow his regular 'ay papi, esta arena en mi chucha' complaints with 'don't trust locals' generalisations everytime he loses a sock has become a wee bit wearing, and pushes this forum's signal to noise ratio in the wrong direction, no? And queering the pitch with over-dramatic claims of local criminality doesn't count as 'youthful enthusiasm' in my book.
I'm sure he's one of the good guys - I just wish he'd pause before posting yet another 'Never Drink Argentine Beer - it makes your head hurt and your wee smell funny - grrr!' headline.
Suerte, Dan
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Perhaps you are right that for this situation I was putting the guilt on South America instead of my own negligence.
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Originally Posted by MotoEdde
To the CanoeGuy and all the Gatagato Haters,
Whoa guys...lets not start the hating that's equally awful to the negative comments GG initially posted...
Karma is a b*ch and its not worth jinxing ourselves with the wisdom of retrospect.
I think he gets it...and not because of our posts.
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Yeah, I get it now. At first I was frustrated and was putting the guilt on SA but it was my fault for getting careless.
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Originally Posted by BCK_973
Geoff, i met you shortly at our HU bunker in BA(means DAKARMOTOS).Reading the diferent postings here i would say that i was never robed here or in any place i was before.Maybe because i know if you give the oportunity.....they will take it.
It is of course sad to hear it in that way.And i know of other traveller who was robed a lot more of his back pack recently(another unlucky bike traveller who recently visited us) and didn´t post that here. THAT IS BASIC TRAVELLER KNOLEDGE!
Maybe you should change your id for GATO GATO got robed by one GATO(kind of a girl friend here,hahahaha)
Enjoy our city man! and don´t run out of lifes!!!
KH
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Hey Karl, I remember seeing you at DM now. Maybe it was my gf who took the money. I dont trust anyone when it comes to money missing. Seems unlikely though since she is a lawyer and I met her when she was vacationing in Ushuaia.
It looks like I scored another -10 Hubb reputation points. I used to enjoy this section of the Hubb a lot but it just isn`t the same being an outcast anymore. Flame on Canoe Guy, Dave Ede, and the celt! I am done with this thread.
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........Perhaps you are right that for this situation I was putting the guilt on South America instead of my own negligence.......
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Now, that's down-right mature sounding... 
Keep on traveling and stay safe.
Sht happens...always....
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was shocked to see only $200 out of the $700 US. I do not suspect my girl friend,
1st Question: What sort of thief only steals part of the money?
2nd Question: Let's say it was your girlfriend.....Did you get your $500 worth?
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Aye caramba
To all the grouch old farts,I,m damn sure that you knew it all when you were 23,but then again I doubt it!!! This daft young lad has kept a whole load of us entertained at his laddish adventures around the continent of South America and we,ve all had the chance to pick holes in his naivety,some of us shout and complain,some of us just enjoy having a giggle at his youthfull enthusiasm.
I for one will be sorry when the daft bugger is gone and all thats left are all the grouchy tossers.
Que Viva GatoGato.
Aye and keep yer money in yer ****ing pocket from now on
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Hey Bert,
I'm all for naive cock-ups and laddish adventures - shit, I've made a living from them - but gatogato's tendency to follow his regular 'ay papi, esta arena en mi chucha' complaints with 'don't trust locals' generalisations everytime he loses a sock has become a wee bit wearing, and pushes this forum's signal to noise ratio in the wrong direction, no? And queering the pitch with over-dramatic claims of local criminality doesn't count as 'youthful enthusiasm' in my book.
I'm sure he's one of the good guys - I just wish he'd pause before posting yet another 'Never Drink Argentine Beer - it makes your head hurt and your wee smell funny - grrr!' headline.
Suerte, Dan
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Reason: trying to find the speeling mistake
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What 'to' carry....
While sometimes difficult to locate, making a serious effort to pack a liter or more of Good Judgement usually pays off.
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Mate we all make mistakes and it is fair enough to express it. The title of your thread led me to believe this would be a tale of a hold-up on the street is all, I think people goad the tone rather than the good intentions.
I am sorry for your loss but don't take these comments so personally. I think the majority of people use the HUBB to share relevant travel info and griping about experiences should kind of be marked as such. As emotive as a loss can be I think we all have experiences of acting naively and getting rolled about it. I myself had a bag stolen checking into a hotel room and still get embarrassed and angry over it. I don't know if I would communicate 'looking after your luggage even when the recptionist is good looking' as fellow-traveller advice though!
I hope you get your $500 worth, then give her a lift down Ruta 40 and make her walk back...
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Come on gato bashers.. lets all count to 10 and chillax !!
Hes a bit like me, he posts before he thinks !! 
Now, who needs a hug ??? 
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Hola from Rio Gallegos, AR.
Sorry for your loss. Hopefully you`ll make it up elsewhere.
I don´t know about the advice of always carrying everything valuable on you. In my experience, you are much more likely to get robbed in the street rather than from your hotel or hostel. That said, never leave your cash or valuables in an obvious place. Find a remote stash spot in your pack or you can put it in something worthless, like inside a top ramen package.
Also, kudos to those that haven´t been victimized in SA, but it is common and warrants some extra precaution, as do many places in the world. Personally, I think the idea of blaming the victim is short sighted. All people have the right to feel safe in the personal security and possessions.
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Hola from Rio Gallegos, AR.
"SNIP"
Personally, I think the idea of blaming the victim is short sighted. All people have the right to feel safe in the personal security and possessions.
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Ain't that the truth! I think the world has lost sight of that fact. Thanks Glasswave for reminding me of that.
Kind regards
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Hey guys, I have been staying at my girlfriends apartment in Buenos Aires. To make a long story short I had $1000 US (in Argentinian pesos) that I received as a deposit for selling my motorcycle in Paraguay. I kept $700 US in my money belt which was inside my bag on the floor of the apartment.
Today I went to get money out of the money belt and was shocked to see only $200 out of the $700 US. I do not suspect my girl friend, but think that it was one of her friends or the doorman who has a key to all the apartments (most likely the doorman because he knew that I had sold my motorcycle and none of my gf`s stuff was robbed).
I have never been robbed of cash like this before. On the trip I have been very careful not to carry more than a $100 at a time until now. I figured that I was a week away from flying home and taking the risk of carrying the money was better that Western Union of 5%.
I was very wrong not to use Western Union and 5% was very cheap for protection in South America.
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Gato
Come back to Argentine man. Anyway they leave $ 200 in your belt, it is not such bad. Always have a eye open ( even over yourself)
Raúl
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