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There is also Coffee Break Spanish, free audio podcasts. They are quite good for the basics; greetings, number, etc.
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Well it's been 2.5 weeks since my first lesson and I can say that I'm confident so far. I'm by no means able to take on a Latin American in regular chit-chat, however I'm confident that if I ask the person to speak very slowly (still not sure what the word is for 'slow') than I could have a small chance of knowing what they said. In fact I would probably say something like this:
'yo entiendo castellano pero yo entiendo muy poco. Hablo muy lento por favor.'
'I understand Spanish but I understand very little. Please speak very slowly.' (I looked up 'slowly', but the rest was all Pimsleur)
Sometimes I get confused and lag behind when I forget a word. I use a few techniques to remember the word, here's an example:
The word 'Spanish' in Latin America is 'castellano' (pronounced - CAST-A-YAN-O). For the life of me I could not remember it and so I attached an image along with it in my head. From now on the image of Casablanca pops in my head every time I try to think of the word 'Spanish' in Spanish... err castellano.
Overall my progress is... well progressing. The format of the mp3's have a person say something in English, then you try to say it in Spanish. Then a person says it in Spanish after a pause. I found that once I hit lesson 9a I started to lag behind, and the Spanish answer felt like it was coming too soon. (before I could figure it out in my head) I've solved this by using the pause button, then redoing the same lesson the next day and trying not to use the pause button. So far this works.
I hope this helps and maybe gives you some motivation to learn this beautiful language!
I'm off to China for a month for work, but I'll try to do an update if anyone thinks these things might help them?
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[QUOTE=AVID;374120]Well it's been 2.5 weeks since my first lesson and I can say that I'm confident so far. I'm by no means able to take on a Latin American in regular chit-chat, however I'm confident that if I ask the person to speak very slowly (still not sure what the word is for 'slow') than I could have a small chance of knowing what they said. In fact I would probably say something like this:
'yo entiendo castellano pero yo entiendo muy poco. Hablo muy lento por favor.'
'I understand Spanish but I understand very little. Please speak very slowly.' (I looked up 'slowly', but the rest was all Pimsleur)
Sometimes I get confused and lag behind when I forget a word. I use a few techniques to remember the word, here's an example:
The word 'Spanish' in Latin America is 'castellano' (pronounced - CAST-A-YAN-O). For the life of me I could not remember it and so I attached an image along with it in my head. From now on the image of Casablanca pops in my head every time I try to think of the word 'Spanish' in Spanish... err castellano.
Overall my progress is... well progressing. The format of the mp3's have a person say something in English, then you try to say it in Spanish. Then a person says it in Spanish after a pause. I found that once I hit lesson 9a I started to lag behind, and the Spanish answer felt like it was coming too soon. (before I could figure it out in my head) I've solved this by using the pause button, then redoing the same lesson the next day and trying not to use the pause button. So far this works.
I hope this helps and maybe gives you some motivation to learn this beautiful language!
I'm off to China for a month for work, but I'll try to do an update if anyone thinks these things might help them?
Hi
You must translate 'I understand Spanish but I understand very little. Please speak very slowly.' like
'yo entiendo castellano pero yo entiendo muy poco. Hable muy lentamente por favor.'
the verbs conjugations is complicated in "castellano"
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I understand that "natural" ways are less boring/demanding, but having a good basis on grammar is the key to improve your language skills and proficiency, instead of remanining in a "football player speech". Both are compatible, so I'd say it's good to go for the MP3 speech, if that's your personal approach, and then, once having learned a while, study some grammar. Things pop up suddenly and you may say "Oh, that's how/why it actually works!" and it's much easier and enjoyable.
I strongly recommend "Aprende Gramática y Vocabulario", published by SGEL. Book 1 will be enough for you by now. Fullly in Spanish, but affordable. Concise and straighforward grammar explanations with good examples, alongside with exercises (and solutions at the end!)
I've been a volunteer teacher of Spanish for years and I use it in addition to the regular manual.
Don't worry about saying castellano or español, that's a long discussion going on, with español currently prevailing.
Rauleloy, well pointed the important "hable" imperative form being it a request. You are totally right, "mente" suffix converts adjectives into adverbs as "ly" in English, but you don't (always) need it, they are just adverbs in the same form as long as they "describe" the action (verb), instead of the sustantive. But is doesn't hurt to emphasize it with "mente"! :-)
Coche lento (adjetive) or hable lento or lentamente (adverb, remember change "o" into "a" as rápido to rápidamente).
Hope it helps. As Rauleloy said, happy to give hand.
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For what it is worth;
i took 2 weeks spanish class in Buenos Aires to start my trip.
You do a basic test (which my results put me in the lowest class because I couldn't speak any). But you are in a group of 6 with the same ability.
They spend a lot of time on conjugating verbs, the regular verbs are mechanical but the irregular verbs are a nightmare! For example in English "to speak" we have 5 variants. In spanish they have 53!
Having said that it is very helpful to know the basic rules of the language.
I then booked another 2 weeks in Santiago. The school wasn't as good and I changed from group lessons after the first week. the 2nd week i just spoje with a tutor for 2 hours. It was the best thing I could have done, she corrected my pronunciation and helped with phrasing of sentences.
The best part about school is that I met a lot of good fun people, all travelling and having a ball. The age gap didn't matter as we all had travel in common.
so for my money - book in to a class when you get here. I am still in contact with some Aussies, Swiss and German guys I met on the course.
Suerte!
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Report 3: Catching Up and Making Time
Hi guys and gals,
Well as mentioned in my previous report on my progress I was in China for a month on business and came to a few conclusions: It's really easy to not study and it feels like it's hard to find time.
With summer fast approaching, that awesome weather has my mind on cottages, motorcycles, being on motorcycles, and figuring out how to legally marry a motorcycle. Study (I hate that word) is becoming so much more difficult.
While I was in beautiful China I seriously slacked on my Spanish courses (Pimsleur) and fell behind. I was on lesson 12 when I left and now I'm on lesson 15. The point here is that with only a minor distraction, I fell behind - which brings me to my next point: making time.
Making time really is easy, seriously. All of those out there that say it's not possible are just plain lazy (myself included). You can find time in your car to and from work, at lunch, doing the dishes, prepping dinner, or some other creative way. The truth is that you just have to commit to actually doing it and not slack. When I was in China I made excuses not to do it so I fell behind. The result is that I can't concentrate on the new levels without backtracking (like when you've put a book down for too long and you're halfway through a chapter).
So what have I learned?
- When you study, do it when you don't have to concentrate too hard on something else.
- Finding time is easy if you take 2 seconds to figure out when is best for you (20 mins a day).
- China is an awesome place that you should all try to visit!
So what have you guys done to find time/battle your laziness?
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There's a weekly "News in slow Spanish" podcast out there as well, good to listen to whilst on the bike.
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So what have you guys done to find time/battle your laziness?
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If you struggle to force yourself to study, which requires A LOT of discipline... enroll in a course. Every Tuesday and Thursday the world stops at 19h because you have language classes (that was my approach, since there is always something to do).
The only fault, if you have to travel a lot (say China 1 month!), then ask your colleagues what they've seen in the class and the homework and do it at the end of the day in your hotel (instead of playing wiht your Ipad). Once bac, try to correct the homework if possible. Study & homework, the key factors.
Cannot find time to study? Then go to work by bus, find a seat and study, so it is not wasted time. If you like reading, get a basic dual language book (1 page Spanish, 1 page English translation) from a book you already have read and enjoyed. You'll remember the vocabulary more easily.
"Mis dos céntimos..."
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