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One more question...
Sorry Guys
Here l am getting excited thinking l can fly from the UK to Sao Paulo, collect my motorbike and ride across the Argentinian Border...
I just recognised that my USA Certificate of Title expired February 2012 - 2years ago!!
This would need renewing in the USA right? Or, as long as the title matches the bike engine, chssi numbers - l can still ride through central and south america countries as the Title is only valid in the USA?
Apologies - what a bugger - any thoughts would be appreciated...
I would potentially ride from Sao Paulo into Argentina an south to Ushuaia. The head north through Chile and across Bolivia and head out for the East coast of Brazil towards french guiana, suriname and into Venezuela where l would try and ship the bike to Cuba and into Florida and then ride across the USA.
Once in the USA - l can register ...
Any last ditch thoughts would be appreciated...
Thanks
Danny.
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Registration card?
I didn't know a title of ownership expires. I believe you mean the "registration" expired, an item that needs to be renewed annually. You will want to renew your registration, because that will be the only US document that has the license plate number on it. Your name and the license plate number on registration links to the title of ownership, proving you own the bike with that license plate...
Depending on the state in the US, you might have some challenges renewing the registration by mail. Check to see if the registration can be renewed online. My state has this service. Chance are you'll need a local address to have the card mailed, but I assume you know someone in the US.
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2008/09 - NJ to Costa Rica and back to NJ
2012/13 - NJ to Northern Argentina, Jamaica, Cuba and back to NJ
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Registration.
Thanks and Yes thats correct - the certificate of title has an annual expiration date on the registration and needs to be renewed.
- The bikes in Sao Paulo, brazil.
- The State where registration needs to be completed is California.
- I am based in the UK - so will check online
Then have it sent to a US address and mailed to the UK before l depart to Brazil. Seems best way?
You agree..??
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Not that I condone it, but I reckon half the travellers' vehicles in South America have expired registration papers simply because there are annual inspections required - eg TUV, pink slip inspections, MOT and in the case of California, annual smog and mechanical inspections and without those, registrations just can't be renewed. Certificates of title then become the document of choice at border posts since mostly they are looking for vehicle details to enter on the TIP and rarely look at registration expiry dates.
One tip for travellers is to get all the required data - personal and vehicle - typed out neatly with English, Spanish and Portuguese translations of the headings and present that to the official behind the desk while having the originals in a folder if needed. This saves them a heap of time searching through the papers with unfamiliar layouts to find VINs and vehicle models and types.
Couple of times I have been handed the blank TIP and asked to fill it in myself so whatever you can do to make their life easier will be appreciated.
BTW, wouldn't Cuba be a bad choice for shipping anything to the US
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Thanks so much for your feedback.
I thought just the same - so many bikes and vehicles in south america that the registration docs must have expired for many. But l have all the bikes paper work and when l get back to the US will re-register the bike...
Yes - Cuba aint the place to ship to the US.......so maybe ship the bike from venezuela to florida and l will fly to puerto rico and onto cuba and meet the bike in florida...
All comments appreciated.....
Cheers
Danny.
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