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24 Sep 2008
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Dear JMo, skinny and Dave,
many thanks for your prompt answers. That already helped a lot.
@JMo:
I actually have a dealer in Idaho, who would let me register the bike on one of his freinds adresses in Oregon (with 0% tax). Talking to the DMV in Oregan, they said that they do not allow to register a vehicle on a foreigners name. It had to be registered on a local. I could only be in the title as the secondary user or owner. Do you have any other information in this? Will I gat into trouble beeing the secondary owner of the vehicle at any of the central / south american borders?
@Skinny:
Is it really necessary to aply for that permit online beforehand or can I do that at the border in person?
@Dave:
You mean they registered and went over the border immediately thereafter? So, I do not need the title papers at all to get into mexico etc.?
Again, many thanks for your support,
Bjoern
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24 Sep 2008
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Originally Posted by BjoernBundschuh
I actually have a dealer in Idaho, who would let me register the bike on one of his freinds adresses in Oregon (with 0% tax). Talking to the DMV in Oregan, they said that they do not allow to register a vehicle on a foreigners name. It had to be registered on a local. I could only be in the title as the secondary user or owner. Do you have any other information in this? Will I gat into trouble beeing the secondary owner of the vehicle at any of the central / south american borders?
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Hi Bjoern - I'm not sure about the situation in Oregon, but in Nevada, I simply bought the bike, and took the paperwork with my name and 'my' US address down to the DMV and it was all sorted... not sure if they check on any US data base for residency/citizenship or not to be honest... they certainly didn't ask for a Social Security number or anything like that...
That said, if it's different in Oregon, then perhaps the best thing is to get the Title in this person's name (although that could be a bit dodgy for you, as they technically own the vehicle, not you) and have you listed on it if that is possible? - If so, I imagine a covering letter from the main owner saying you have permission to use the bike would be enough for any customs office? (I borrowed a press Land Rover a couple of years ago and took it from the UK to Morroco and back with such a covering letter - no problem).
Personally I can't see why you can't just get the bike titled and registered in your name at a US address though - erm, you rent a room from this guy in Oregon don't you?!
Good luck,
Jen xx
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29 Sep 2008
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Originally Posted by BjoernBundschuh
Dear JMo, skinny and Dave,
many thanks for your prompt answers. That already helped a lot.
@Skinny:
Is it really necessary to aply for that permit online beforehand or can I do that at the border in person?
Bjoern
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You can do all the paperwork at the border and most people choose to take that approach. Using the online Banjercito web site takes about 5 minutes and you'll have your permit in 2 or 3 days. The same procedure at the border may take anywhere from 30 minutes to several hours, depending on how crowded it is, how brain-dead the Mexican official is, and a butt-load of other factors that are completely beyond your control...I prefer the on-line registration because it's mostly fool-proof and fast.
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You can register a vehicle in Arizona without being a legal resident of the USA, and as another poster mentioned, insure it with Progressive who will write coverage for non-residents without American driver's licenses.
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