No Visa no Cedula no other way Been there done it and have cedula

Once out of Colombia legally, are there any problems likely at other borders? Or does each country only care about their own taxes / exports?

(just curious, South America is on my bucket list, lol)

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I got pulled back to this thread by a "like" - I didn't have problems crossing to Ecuador on a Peru moto licensed in my name. I'm from the States. I understand getting to Bolivia from Peru as a foreigner on a Peru moto requires hiring a local Peruvian to help with the legality and paperwork. There is someone in the Puno area who offers this service. A foreigner cannot take a Peru moto directly to Chile from Peru, but I don't know if that is the case with a foreigner on a Colombia licensed moto. The work around is to go through Bolivia, and then to Chile. My take is SA borders are typical for all of Latin America, with some unique glitches and work arounds. Regulations can change too. I know Chile/Argentina have some unique issues. I wouldn't hesitate traveling with a Colombia or Peru licensed moto, and maybe even a Chile licensed moto will not be unworkable when crossing borders. Read various travel reports and contact moto vendors as part of your research.

Thanks - from some of the hoops one has to jump through I can see why Itchy Boots opted to take a bike registered in her home country there rather than buy locally, if it just frees you from these issues

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Bringing your own bike from home is *usually* (not always) preferable on an extended trip--it saves all sorts of hassles and you get total control over accessorizing, maintenance, and repairs. Itchy Boots is on extended trips thru multiple countries/continents. That doesn't apply to everyone.

The fact that overseas transport has gotten much more expensive and unreliable during the past few years is also worth considering.

The other issue, just as important, is parts availability. Exotic moto not sold in SA or a more technical moto like BMW or even KTM for instance, and you may be stranded by a long wait for parts. I met a couple in Peru who waited a week or so for KTM parts.

I had a couple repairs done on my Peru licensed Honda and was able to easily find a mechanic and get it done very quickly; namely same morning to replace disks on a slipping clutch. Same time frame on another trip when I had a wheel bearing failure.

$1000 shipping each way for your own moto plays with the decision too. I'm not concerned about crossing borders. There are ways to cross borders as a foreigner on a local moto. I made multiple trips, and the ability to store my moto for a year with no concern about the TVIP permit played in to my decision too.

Your choice and decision. Many issues besides crossing the border play in to ones decision. I'm just providing input.

It is not too hard to figure out how to buy another foreign travelers motorcycle in South America. With Covid the supply has definitely dried up, but in a couple years hopefully the HUBB for sale section will be full of travelers selling their foreign bikes in Argentina again.

I have followed Toby's posts over the years and believe that most of his customer's have had good experiences with renting/ buy back program.
My recommendation is to "rent" a motorcycle from him if it is 2010 or older. Foreign motorcycles in South America tend to lead hard lives, parts are expensive, labor can be very expensive in Chile and Argentina depending how isolated you are. Just waiting on a part in Chile you are going to rack up a lot of expenses.

If you are on a timeline, than definitely "rent" the bike instead. The rental might look expensive, but rental motorcycles in general are going to be newer and maintained to a much higher standard.

Renting the bike in 1 South American country and doing a 3 week trip inside that country is enough. When you want to come back to South America just rent a bike in a new country there. Make life easy on yourself.

You have to remember that anytime you buy something "used" you are taking on a big risk. If you do not have pretty good mechanical knowledge, than don't "buy" a bike that 10 other foreigners have done huge offroad trips on. My advice is to always have a ,"back up plan." If you arrive to Toby's and the bike's available do not meet your standards than have a back up plan. Shipping a motorcycle to South America or the Darien Gap is a very big expense. I think the idea of Tony's buy back program is that if you get lucky and do not run into maintenance issues, and ride the same route to get back to Peru you can recoup some money. The buyback program makes sense for a retired person with a few months free. If you are on any kind of a schedule than planning to do a 5 country circle and return to where you bought the motorcycle from makes 0 sense.

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Some comments on this from my view

a) If you read Tony´s post,of course everyone is happy. Read also the customers comments.
b) The law that you can't drive out of Peru came 2019. So anything before that is not relevant to this small "border crossing issue".

c) To buy a bike from Toby requires full payment 4 weeks before you arrive. So no, you can't just turn around to a plan B
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How many dealer requires payment 4 weeks before delivery ??
The normal is that you can inspect the bike. And pay at the same time as transfer of ownership is done.
Just another example that this is not serious. Send your full payment to a company in a foreign country. In advance ???
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Please study Toby's info and customer feedback after 2019.

I rented from Toby back in 2018. My wife and I rode a XRE300 around the mountains for 10 days. My experience was great. We exchanged many emails before the trip, and Toby was very helpful with planning and info. He was actually flying out of Lima the day before we where off to Huanuco, and he made the time to meet in person and go over route options. Jamie and his team are great to deal with.

I am in the beginning stages of purchasing from Toby as my wives family lives in Lima and we are planning to leave a bike there for future 1-3 month trips. For peace of mind we are most likely going new.

I would not hesitate to use his services.