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Santiago -> Buenos Aires during winter; 1st trip HELP!

Hey guys,
first of all thanks for all the helpful threads in here, helped me a lot so far. I'm studying in Santiago and have about a month of holidays in a couple of weeks.

I'm looking forward to doing my first motorcycle trip this july in Southamerica. I want to ride from Santiago de Chile to Buenos Aires and from there on to the north.
Problem is there is the Paso Christo Redentor inbetween.

Do you think that there could be problems crossing the Pass because of snowfall or ice on the road or better has anyone done that during the winter so far?
I couldn't find a site on the internet which has weather conditions about this road because its closed from time to time due to strong snowfall. The Pass is up to 3500meter high. Its the principal route between Argentinia and Chile so there there are a lot of trucks everyday and as far as i know they are always cleaning it as fast as possible.

Next problem. I will buy myself a knew Euromot gxt 200ccm for the trip. A friend of mine might come with me for the first part of the trip and i'm kinda concerned whether the power of the bike is enough for us two crossing the andes (she's a girl and i'm not that heavy either). Unfortunately I don't have much experience so I can't really estimate that.

I really want to do that trip with my own bike and don't want to make my trip with a bus which would be the easy and boring way.
Thanks in advance for your help and i hope someone has done that before and can hook me up with some tips.
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Next problem. I will buy myself a knew Euromot gxt 200ccm for the trip. A friend of mine might come with me for the first part of the trip and i'm kinda concerned whether the power of the bike is enough for us two crossing the andes (she's a girl and i'm not that heavy either). Unfortunately I don't have much experience so I can't really estimate that.
I've crossed 4500m on a Honda XL200 with a girl on the back, it's slow but quite doable.

Also one tip for you, there's a very good hostel in Santiago thats rather cheap with a garage. You can find it here: Hostal de Sammy - Backpacker Youth Hostel in Santiago Chile
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Could it be a problem? Of course it could. It snows. There's ice. It's cold. The days are short. Most people don't like riding on snowy, icy roads, and most don't like riding in cold either. That's because it's dangerous and uncomfortable. You might be different, but how are you going to find out? You need to try it and see. No one can tell you how you'll fare on an internet forum.

On the other hand, I can warn you against biting off more than you can chew with a new bike and insufficient experience. Get some practice first, including on some mountain roads in winter, before you start riding two-up on long trips through mountains in the wintertime. To start right out with a passenger is asking for trouble for you both.

This advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.....but I hope it's helpful nonetheless.

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thanks, it was helpful indeed. well, the uncomfortable part is only between santiago and mendoza. this is about 370km and the crossing where its getting high, cold and nasty is only about 50km on a pretty decent road. all the other parts are over flat land where it's not as cold anymore.
i'm just trying to get a feeling whether there are serious concerns doing that. obviously its more comfortable riding on a sunny day in hot weather but i have to cross these mountains to get to the more pleasant part.
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I know that road, and I know mountains well enough to know what it'll be like in winter. You keep asking the same question, this time phrasing it in terms of whether there are "serious concerns." The answer is yes, fer godssakes there are serious concerns. If you don't understand those concerns you shouldn't be riding a road like that during the winter....so go out and gather yourself enough experience to make it possible to judge such things for yourself.

On the other hand, in nice weather with the road free of ice and snow, it'll be a breeze....as long as you don't find one of the patches of black ice hidden in the shade, or the refrozen bit of meltwater off a snowbank. The trouble is, you don't sound like you're ready to make those kind of judgment calls. least of all with a passenger. At least stick to risking your own life for a while, not hers as well.

I apologize if I've misjudged your level of experience, which is perfectly possible considering the vagaries of internet communication.

Safe journeys!

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...sometimes there is snow and ice but not often and this should be able to find out in advance-ask the cars and trucks which come down the pass.
There is wind-strong wind-but adventures never had been a caferide...
It will be fu...ing cold-wear as much as you can (especially girls on the back use to freeze a lot (she might become bitchy which could be you biggest prob ;-)))
You need really good gloves...

There is a border crossing at the coldest spot-calculate 3 hours for the border-no joke-after 10 month on the bike all over S-America I know what I´m talking about...

...but I´m sure milliones of Argentinians and Chilenians had done the same trip with their chicas on a 150ccm bike without proper cloth and without gloves...most of them survived

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