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Skipping TDF???!!!
I´m not a big fan of backtracking, and I figure the scenery is comparible to other scenery on the continent?
So am I nuts for just heading down Ruta40 to the Glacier National Park area in and just head back a bit to go into Chile and onto the CA?
We´ve just headed off Ruta 30 onto Ruta 22 toward the mountains, and the dull flats are doing my nut in. It´s like going to Australia and the first thing you do is crossing the Nullarbor so far.
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Mmmmmmmm...............yes go to TDF
TDF is unique,at least for me! I think your question can be answered by you only.
Now if you are short on money and time and are sitting in la Quiaca.......thats diferent.
Taste is very subjective.
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I did 23,000 miles from Colorado down to El Calafate and back up to Brazil.
I skipped TDF and don't have a problem with it....It is what the trip means to you....(I was also getting snowed on and was sick of tourist towns)
If I had it to do over again, I'd skip Southern Argentina and spend more time exploring Brazil.
Besides, its not that much of a ride, I could shoot on down to TDF any old time.
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Course, I also thought all the riders who were gaga over Ruta 40 were a bit nutty....I can ride on crappy roads all day long here in the backwoods....I shot down the highway at 130 mph all day long despite the guanaco and nadu.
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My recommendation is to go as far South as Bariloche and do a separate airplane trip to Ushaia from Buenos Aires.
You are right about the whole Southern half of Argentina except the last 300 miles being a wasteland pretty much. It was not to exciting spending a week riding through Nebraska type scenery.
If you are content in riding all the way to Ushaia then I would say stick to the Caterra Austral, then Ruta 40, and then the inevitable boring Ruta 3. The Caterra Austral and Ruta 40 are very tough gravel roads though.
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hej guys,
just arrived in Barriloche, coming up from Ushuaia and I definitly agree, would skip Ushuaia, a long way with nothing, just to ride to the ´most southern point´...pfff...and indeed the last 100 km, before arriving in Ushuaia was beautiful. a dissapointment to me. on top...Chili is working on a road next to Ushuaia., i was told, which will be in the future the most southern point..he he he...then we have to do it again...me no way.
on top...the strong winds as soon as you go down..horrible and a hell. had an accident coming from Ushuaia, on the border with Chili/Argentina, broken ambriage handle (not handle but connection). no solution yet to fix that problem. will start riding to Mendoza tomorrow..and go and have that changed overhere, i suppose.
another question : need another backtyre...any suggestions ? have a Continental TKC80...have a spare one (used one, not very good anymore) in Valparaiso, but will first try to find a new one ?
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Wich size of tire?
What bike also?
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bmw F650gs - 2004, so far all going well. tomorrow leaving, for San Martin de Los Andes, by the 7 lake road, part is ripio. lets see. yesterday and today the first 2 days in 2 months we had good weather, could run around in t shirt...what a difference. cheers
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i'd go
did last year, in fact. down ruta 3, back ruta 40.
wouldn't have missed the trip or the place. loved the vastness of the place (despite being australian). TDF, southern patagonia - the endless corrugations (despite...), the remoteness, the wind, loved it all. besides anything else, the night sky - you just can't look straight up at the southern cross from anywhere else.
of course as others have said, it depends what you like.
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bmw F650gs - 2004, so far all going well. tomorrow leaving, for San Martin de Los Andes, by the 7 lake road, part is ripio. lets see. yesterday and today the first 2 days in 2 months we had good weather, could run around in t shirt...what a difference. cheers
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A good knobie tire is Karoo(metzeler) or MT-21 Pirelli.Both you can buy in any mayor city(mendoza).Maybe even TKC in Santiago.
Yes weather down there(patagonia) is allways like that.My sister lives in Ushuaia and we have most times 20º diference!!!hahahaha and not talking about sun......
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We must have just missed each other. We´re in Bariloche now coming from SM de los Andes. I think I´ll miss TDF. The cost of Argentina and the crashed Aussie dollar is really hurting us, so we´ll have to heavily reduce our trip. Argentina is not the reletively cheap country I was told it was going to be by just about everybody. The fencing is also a lot heavier than people made out to be. Had the coppers show up somewhere around Neuquen the other day. And you look around at the La Pampa and wonder, what do you care if we´re here for a night. It doesn´t seem to be used for anything.
Bit bored of La Pampa, so much to go still.
Any tires to be found around the start of the Carreterra Austral?
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We must have just missed each other. We´re in Bariloche now coming from SM de los Andes. I think I´ll miss TDF. The cost of Argentina and the crashed Aussie dollar is really hurting us, so we´ll have to heavily reduce our trip. Argentina is not the reletively cheap country I was told it was going to be by just about everybody. The fencing is also a lot heavier than people made out to be. Had the coppers show up somewhere around Neuquen the other day. And you look around at the La Pampa and wonder, what do you care if we´re here for a night. It doesn´t seem to be used for anything.
Bit bored of La Pampa, so much to go still.
Any tires to be found around the Southern side of the Carreterra Austral? Also 17" for a F650
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nooooo.....
Don't tell us that tmotten!!
We're Aussie too and really feeling the squeeze on the dollar here in Chile. Especially after the cheapness of Peru. We're holding out to get to Argentina where everyone has told us it will be considerably cheaper!!
We're definitely going to ride to Parque Nacional Torres del Paine to do some hiking, but I'm unsure about the final section to Ushuaia. We'll be heading Sth from Valparaiso in a week or so down the CA. My concern is more that my girlfriend who will be riding too is fairly inexperienced, so want to skip any particularly difficult roads if the reward is not sufficient.
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Are you coming south via Talca and Osorno? I am in Talca, going to Osorno for a service, new bearings, new tires. Would like to hook up with another rider (or two) for the CA. Please PM or mail me. vagamoto@mac.com
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We must have just missed each other. We´re in Bariloche now coming from SM de los Andes. I think I´ll miss TDF. The cost of Argentina and the crashed Aussie dollar is really hurting us, so we´ll have to heavily reduce our trip. Argentina is not the reletively cheap country I was told it was going to be by just about everybody. The fencing is also a lot heavier than people made out to be. Had the coppers show up somewhere around Neuquen the other day. And you look around at the La Pampa and wonder, what do you care if we´re here for a night. It doesn´t seem to be used for anything.
Bit bored of La Pampa, so much to go still.
Any tires to be found around the Southern side of the Carreterra Austral? Also 17" for a F650
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Motoaventura in Osorno has a big stock of Metzler Sahara 17 in tyres, plus electronic balancing. And great service, all the parts you need for F650 and 1200 GS. sonia@motoaventura.cl
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