4Likes
|
|
31 Jul 2016
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 21
|
|
Store a bike in Brazil
Is there any option to store a bike in Brazil for about 3 jears? I have a place just need the paper stuff. I am in Argentina at the moment
|
31 Jul 2016
|
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Samaipata / Bolivia
Posts: 895
|
|
Brazil
Hi Thomas,
paperwork should be easy in Brazil, as they dont have TIP anymore, but pls confirm this with somebody that knows more about this. And of course things can change within three years.
Contact the expert on Brazil - Rod from the Bikershelpdesk in Foz do Iguassu, he can tell you all about storing your bike (or maybe even selling it). You can contact him over the Foz community here on HU.
Suerte
mika
Last edited by mika; 31 Jul 2016 at 01:46.
Reason: mistake
|
31 Jul 2016
|
|
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maplewood NJ USA
Posts: 588
|
|
Hey Thomas,
Mika is giving you really good advice, use the Contact a Community feature of Horizons Unlimited.
Here is the link to the page:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/connect/contact Anytime you are in need of local advice, for any country represented, use the above. You might want to reach out to several of the contacts and run your message through Google Translate to add a version in Portuguese...
When you get confirmation on TVIP requirements for Brazil, please post what you learn here. There has been a running question in the HUBB South American forum on the status/requirement of importation paperwork for Brazil.
__________________
Peter B
2008/09 - NJ to Costa Rica and back to NJ
2012/13 - NJ to Northern Argentina, Jamaica, Cuba and back to NJ
2023 - Peru, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia...back to Peru.
Blogs: Peter's Ride
|
31 Jul 2016
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NSW Australia - but never there
Posts: 1,235
|
|
Brazil DOES issue TVIPs -- for normal vehicles anyway. They stopped doing it when the world cup was on because hundreds of vehicles were coming in from other countries. They came in, watched the football, toured around a bit and drove back home. 99.9% did anyway.
In February this year they started issuing them again at least at some main border posts although not immediately at all the small border crossings.
We crossed in May from Peru on the Interoceanic highway and that crossing was still not issuing TIPs so I have taken a bit of a chance and left our camper in Brasilia for about a year. Friends there, many in fairly high places, assure me there are no major sanctions involved, but nothing is guaranteed. Officially it is quite clear that even when they were not issuing paper TIPs, people were still obliged to follow the letter of the law and be out of Brazil with their vehicle within 90 days of entry. Bit like USA. No TIPs but if you overstay and get unlucky, you will be in big trouble.
|
31 Jul 2016
|
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Samaipata / Bolivia
Posts: 895
|
|
TIP in Brazil
Quote:
In February this year they started issuing them again at least at some main border posts although not immediately at all the small border crossings.
|
Good to know, thank you for telling us. But as I remember it was long before the stupid soccer cup that they stoped issuing TIPs to foreign travelers.
So, this means Brazil is not the option to leave your bike for as long as you want anymore without any problems leaving. But would be good to get this confirmed from HU member Rod in Foz.
mika
|
31 Jul 2016
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NSW Australia - but never there
Posts: 1,235
|
|
Yes, they kept the no-TIP deal going for way after the world cup and everyone was thinking they would keep it in place for the Olympics so it was a surprise when they started issuing them again.
|
1 Aug 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: GOC
Posts: 3,335
|
|
Many Brazilians go shopping from Foz do Iguazu in Brazil to Cuidad del Este in Paraguay and return home when they've bought whatever without visiting immigration or customs on either side of the bridge.
In late 2015 I did this border crossing. My bike never had a TIP when it entered Brazil, so on the way out I only went to Brazil immigration to stamp myself out. There may have been a customs office, but I didn't see it.
On the Paraguayan side I did immigration and had to seek out customs to get their TIP (up on the hill on the right above the main crossing point). The customs man on the main road initially wanted to just send me on my way without doing a TIP.
|
1 Aug 2016
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 21
|
|
On iOveander i found this Information about the boarder in Foz:
30 Jul 2016
Immigration was straightforward. We did get a TIP when we asked if anything was needed for the car. TIP entry was for 3 months. TIP took about 30 minutes, because we needed to go to three desks and people were learning how to fill in the documents. Nothing was checked, ATM's did not work
Gesendet von meinem GT-I9060C mit Tapatalk
|
1 Aug 2016
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 21
|
|
Maybe i dont get TIP if i dont ask but would be nice to get more exact information
Gesendet von meinem GT-I9060C mit Tapatalk
|
2 Aug 2016
|
|
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maplewood NJ USA
Posts: 588
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony LEE
Officially it is quite clear that even when they were not issuing paper TIPs, people were still obliged to follow the letter of the law and be out of Brazil with their vehicle within 90 days of entry. Bit like USA. No TIPs but if you overstay and get unlucky, you will be in big trouble.
|
Tony Lee is posting the best advice.
In my experience, when leaving Brazil for Uruguay, I had to ask around for the National Police office where I surrendered my TVIP. They took the papers, but it was obvious they weren't used to taking the paper work. I suspect the papers floated around the office and were eventually thrown out. Maybe. I'll never know. Brazil is a funny place. High importation taxes on consumer products, then they seem to turn a blind eye towards motorcycles rolling over the borders. Go figure.
Do not try this in Peru. I know a guy who over stayed his TVIP by one day. ONE DAY! Aduana confiscated his bike, bye-bye bike. He hired a lawyer and hung around Puno for a couple weeks before packing it in. I love Peru and that is why I am in the process of buying a bike there. Peru will be my home away from home and storage for the next few years.
__________________
Peter B
2008/09 - NJ to Costa Rica and back to NJ
2012/13 - NJ to Northern Argentina, Jamaica, Cuba and back to NJ
2023 - Peru, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia...back to Peru.
Blogs: Peter's Ride
|
2 Aug 2016
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 21
|
|
I think i woll gonna try it to pass without TIP and store the Bike in Sau Paulo. If i sell it its a lot oc organisation aswell and i would not get more than 1000 maybe 1500 USD $ If someone have more Informations, please leave a comment
Gesendet von meinem GT-I9060C mit Tapatalk
|
2 Aug 2016
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 108
|
|
it´s right brazil has introduced tip this year again.
and i can tell you, that you can have a lot of trouble without a "tip". I think not at the boarders but at checkpoints.
I also think there are still a lot of cars and motorcycles without tip on the road and you really have to meet a high motivated officer.
but if you do...it´s brazil, even the police or receita federal doesn´t know the rules. But the first thing they will do if the control you is that the receita federal confiscate your bike. than they check the rules...
you can get it back, but you should have good arguments^^
So if you like your bike, don´t try it, if you don´t care and want to risk it, good luck.
|
3 Aug 2016
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 21
|
|
I like my bike. But thats why i risk. I dont want to sell it to another traveller. I know a lot of police checkpoints. Cant be worse than Uzbekistan ☺
Gesendet von meinem GT-I9060C mit Tapatalk
|
3 Aug 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: GOC
Posts: 3,335
|
|
In the 3000 or so km in the triangle SP, Rio de Janeiro, Curitiba, Foz do Iguazu in October/November 2015 I encountered no checkpoints what so ever. Possible I wasn't looking hard enough.
|
17 Aug 2016
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sweden/Germany
Posts: 166
|
|
same here...no controls in the same área.
I had my bike stored in Foz and picked it up after 2 years. Sincé then I have crossed into Argentina twice and now to Chile. No problems!
BTW I am also evaluating the same thing, to store it again in Brazil...
Last edited by norschweger; 7 Sep 2016 at 08:32.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|