Overstaying in Brasil

[PatOnTrip]

Hi all,

Do you have any experience with the custom when overstaying in Brasil for a few months (4-5)?

Will they take my bike at the border on my way out? Put me in jail?

Here the local people are telling me to not worry about that but it's better to have the info earlier.

I just learn I can't have an extension in my passport. The police told me to leave Brasil but there is no border closer then 4000km. I don't want to ride that 2 times in order to come back!!! I just arrive in Bahia and want to visit all the North East slowly.

Thanks,
Patrick

[Wanderer_1]

I note that you are a fellow Canadian. I am quite familiar with Brasil Immigration and know too well that you can only stay 90 days and possibly a further 90 days at the pleasure of Policia Federal Immigration. To obtain the 90 day extension you must apply at the nearest Polica Federal Immigration office 1 week prior to the expiry of the initial 90 days. A maximum of 180 days per year from date of first entry can be allowed. The penalties are severe for any violation. Fines, confiscation of vehicle, and possibly imprisonment if you cant pay the fine.

[fcasado]

Originally posted by Wanderer_1:
A maximum of 180 days per year from date of first entry can be allowed. The penalties are severe for any violation. Fines, confiscation of vehicle, and possibly imprisonment if you cant pay the fine.

There is NO imprisionment for unpaid fines whatsoever.

All you need to know about your rights as a foreigner in Brasil is here:
http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/Leis/L6815.htm

That's the law, not what I think or what I guess it's. If you need help translating it post it up!

If they catch you and your Visa is expired you'll be fined and given a date to leave the country, if you don't do it by then you'll be deported and you MAY go to prison for up to 60 days untill the process is sorted, that's ALL.

NEVER try to bribe a policeman in Brasil, doing so you may indeed end up in prison.

[PatOnTrip]

Thanks for your info!

I will leave Brasil. I'm too afraid to loose my bike at the border cause I would not want to pay the fine. Fighting the law of Brasil is not my kind of adventure. It is far better like to arrive for the first time in Rio Janeiro and ride at night while following a complete stranger in the Favelas to find a free place to stay

By the way, If you really want a cheap place to stay in Rio. The Favelas Rio Das Pedras are really safe. You can find something to rent very cheap.

Patrick

[Wanderer_1]

Smart Move! Policia Federal Immigration are tough. A Brit friend overstayed and wound up being deported after spending 40 days in a pretty nasty prison.
I came close myself as my wife Brazilian had a serious accident, and Air Canada screwed up with overbooking. I was given 15 days further to leave. I could not come back to Brasil untill the appeal process was finalized a year later. My fines were forgiven upon a high level review. The fines at that time where $150. USD per day.

Thankfully a friend is highly placed in Federal Justice. "Jetinho Brasil"

Dont leave your bike in Brasil if its foreign registered.

It is quite easy to get a Brazilian bike and leave it in Brasil and explore all of SA from a Brasil base.

[mika]

hola,

uhhh, overstaying your visa in Brazil ... not good ... cant give you any information, but the others did, good.

overstaying your bike permit. I have overstayed my bikes permit for I think seven months. First, dont show the expired permit to any policeman, show them your bike rego documents, driving license and any other document you may have for the bike.

I left Brazil with the bike to Paraguay, no problems. At Foz do Iguazu you can just ride over the bridge, nobody stops you. I did it in the morning with a lot of traffic going. Than I went to the Imigration on the Paraguayan side, they told me I had to go back to Brazil to get an Exit stamp. So I walked back, got my stamp (nobody could see the bike) and walked back to Paraguay. Did get the stamp and made the custom document for the bike.

This was in 11/2003. And I had no trouble to enter Brazil again with the same bike in 01/2004. The computers at the borders used by the customs were not connected to each other.

suerte

mika

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[fcasado]

The average policemen in Brasil don't even know you need an import permit to transit with your bike through Brasil. The papers regarding the bike are done by the "Receita Federal" which is NOT related to the "Policia Federal" nor to the "Policia Militar" (which is the most likely to stop you to do any checking).

As long as it's not an argentinian plated bike you'll be all right!

Fernando

[BCK_973]

Fernando
Why is my argentinean plate a problem in brazil?
Do you think brazilian police are argentine phobic?
Never had problems there.
KH


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[fcasado]

Originally posted by BCK_973:
Fernando
Why is my argentinean plate a problem in brazil?
Do you think brazilian police are argentine phobic?
Never had problems there.
KH

A little while ago we had a huge problem with argentinians breaking the road traffic law (i.e. not sticking with the speed limit, parking where forbbiden, riding a m'bike without a helmet etc). Therefore the cops tend to be a little thougher with you guys...

That used to happen specially in Santa Catarina (camboriu, floripa) and Rio Grande do Sul.

Don't take it personally "cabron", I'm pretty sure you've never done one of these stupids things, but you have argentinians and argentinians as well as brazilians and brazilians...A good example is here in England we brazilians have a bad reputation, although I've never done anything wrong I got the label anyway

[PatOnTrip]

Hi all,

Overstaying in Brasil is in not a good idea. I had to pays 8,25$R (4$US) per extra day. Then they charged me 7% of the value of my bike for the custom for a 30 days period. And I played ping pong riding the bike between the border,Federal Police and custom for a while.

If you overstay, it is worth it to exit to paraguay cause there is no check at the border.