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damn you are right Matt!
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HHHmmm... that sounded like a bit of a childish wind up from max,..... ether that or he's effluently congested. Maybe put it down to.. not particularly well traveled... I'd find it hard to believe that someone of those views has experienced any decent travel and remained so phobic about the world....
Sorry Max... they may be your views. fine , but they don't really gel around this site.
I can understand the motivation from the original question. reaqsonable enough... ask anyone on this site with some travel mileage and I'm sure they'll all agree....Don't carry a weapon!!!!
If you have any people skills you'll be fine, a stupid grin will get you a long way... carry a weapon and you will find yourself in hot water - either from authorities ( most countries have a different thought about self defense) or from running into someone with a bigger stick........
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Please don´t go further here
No flame wars now.It was before here with just expulsed or banned members.
Just one thing:
a) America is a beautyfull continent.Not a country.
b) All people who lives in this continent are americans.
c) Enjoy this beautyfull continent with a smile and the best attitude!North and south.
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America is a nice continent,not a country.All people who lives in this continent are americans.Discover it in peace!
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No flame wars now.It was before here with just expulsed or banned members.
Just one thing:
a) America is a beautyfull continent.Not a country.
b) All people who lives in this continent are americans.
c) Enjoy this beautyfull continent with a smile and the best attitude!North and south.
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Che,
Haven't seen you in a while. Still fixing elevators?
I could sure use a Mate and some empanadas.
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You say that self defense is not murder, well it may be so in the states, but it is not that black-white in the rest of the world.
If a guy breaks into my house in Denmark and I kill him I will go to jail for homicide. If it can be proven that he would kill me, I may get away with a few years. Killing other people is a crime.
Am I a liberal? No, I am socialist. I think you call that "commi scum" over there. (-:
But when introducing politics then you must be a republican I guess?
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The next time someone asks "why do teh rest of the world hate americans"? I will point them to this thread.
As it happens I legally own a handgun here in Europe, but cannot imagine any confrontational situation where carrying it would not make matters worse. I think you mistake the intelligence to negotiate with pacifism. In iraq just after the war, american soldiers could walk about there safely with or without carrying their guns, now they are afraid to venture outsid etheir 'safe enclaves' except en masse with backup from tanks and aircraft.. the change is because they have simply antagonised the local populace with such sentiment and action as you have expressed.
As a point of reference British casualties were greater from American fire than iraqui until year three after the war.
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I couldn't agree more Old Beemer....
When i lived in NZ I actively competed in practical pistol shooting and 3 gun shooting comps. I throughly enjoy hunting, but couldn't distance myself further from the idea of this guy. Don't let this guy put you off the states! you'll enjoy it and meet some great friendly people, and see some amazing scenery but like any country there'll be people with a different take on things....
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I hope you are joking Max, otherwise I am quite lost for words...
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wow yeah........... hope so too........
well Max... I suggest you rather stay at home and play cow boy in your back garden scaring squirl's.......... keep watching TV instead of thinking leaving your home town.......
I fare the Pisa study is right in some way........... oh dear... who is saving the world now ? ohhh yes "Team America" is on its way....... quick.... every one hiding......
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I know us Europeans are so much more soft and squiggy than our American cousins.... but I think it's a point of view that exports itself around the world rather better than a gun-ho approach.
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well yes... we are grown up since the time of Neanderthals.... Europeans developed what most human commonly call diplomatic intelligent, rather than mixing up reality with Hollywood's patriotic diarrhea ..........
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The next time someone asks "why do teh rest of the world hate americans"? I will point them to this thread.
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Probably make them want to move here. I've traveled a lot, and what I've found is that the world does not hate Americans. Most people in the world love the USA and embrace our music, culture, cinema and eating habits.
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Tijuana is not traveling a lot! I heard a bit of that idiotic retroric while in the states..." everyone wants to move to the states" everyone copies america.... well yes the US has been influential in the world but so has Britain, and lots of countries. saying we want to be like the US because we occasionaly graze on a big mac ( without the ridicules 64 oz / 2ltr coke) doesn't mean we idolize your gun culture. NZ has more firearms per capita than the US, but the US has 1000%'s more gun crimes per capita. It's about mentallity. it's your unhealthy attitude that helps breed the take guns to school dramas!
Everyone takes something from somewhere else... The US has an obsession with cars. Who invented them...Germans. Because you own a car doesn't mean you want move to Germany. Sharpen up!
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I've found is that the world does not hate Americans.
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yeah smile at your enemy, confuse em until they are gone again..... befor they knock you down......
That's a diplomatic way of doing things... doing things one way but thinking the other way.... helps most of the time.....
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Most people in the world love the USA and embrace our music, culture, cinema and eating habits.
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point 1:
OK music...
yeah Blues and Rock is OK.... invented by slaves..... thanks for that....
point 2:
what culture... ????
point 3:
cinema....
well ... a small recommendation...
watch this 1st: "Why we fighting for",
2nd: "Sir! no Sir! the GI Vietnam Revolt"
there are some more....... yeah
point 4:
boot and eating habits:
poisoning nature with GM, and over stretching the health system depending on walking fat packed rubbish chute's, destroying the culture of others big style for greed........ and starving the rest who not agree........
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Guys, this thread is taking a bad turn now.
We can all agree that there is a cultural difference between europe and america. But there is also difference between people.
I don't think Max represent a great part of the american people and he certainly represent a very small part of american travellers.
Therefore I would ask people to keep the generalized anti-american stuff out.
If you don't like american patriotic movies, fair enough, but some americans like them and they are not bad people for that.
America is being scolded for this and that all the time, but it is all subjective and therefore I don't think it is relevant.
So please. Don't let Max piss you off with his bullshit. I don't think he would say these things in real life, he just put himself in a corner now and can't get out of it without losing face.
So no more anti-american stuff oki? Not relevant oki?
Peace, Love and motorcycles guys.
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Well Max has made quite a few controversial posts today, but maybe just delete the posts that contain stupid stuff.
the thread itself is relevant enough.
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