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A bit off topic, but...

I refer to myself as an American mainly because that's what most people I've met from outside the USA call us. Besides, we are the only country that has the word America in the name of our country, it would be difficult to call myself anything else. We call citizens of "Los Estados Unidos de Mexico", Mexicanos, correct? No slight to other people of the Americas intended.
I know Andy,my intention is not to start another flame war on such nice subject.I think outside the USA most people central and south called you guys "gringos" and "yanquis".
No one can tell you how you define yourself,that is your own choice.For me and if you look at any book or for the internet case(wikipedia) america is a continent,named after Amerigo Vespucio(italian cartograph).American is an inhabitant of this continent(argentinians,canadians,mexicanos and carrie on and on).
Enjoy our continent and if you drive by i spent a cold cerveza and a nice asado!
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IAmerican is an inhabitant of this continent(argentinians,canadians,mexicanos and carrie on and on).
Enjoy our continent and if you drive by i spent a cold cerveza and a nice asado!
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Very Well. We are all Americans.

But I want all of you Mexican, Central, and South ****Americans**** to make me a promise.

If you are ever on an airplane hijacked by Islamic terrorists and the hijackers while wildly waving their weapons scream "All of the Americans stand up and get into the center" I want you to promise you will shout out, "Hey, I´m an American too"
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Only when the american do the same when the terrorists are shouting for the evil mohamed drawing danes. Uhhhh we are truly evil.

Any weapon upscales the situation. Period.

You have the police to deal with aggersive drunks and it is their job, not yours.
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Only when the american do the same when the terrorists are shouting for the evil mohamed drawing danes. Uhhhh we are truly evil.
I´m with you 100%.

If only Americans were as enthusiastic about free speech rights and uh, restraining the powers of the Executive Branch as they are about the 2nd Amendment. The world would be a better place.


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Any weapon upscales the situation. Period.

You have the police to deal with aggersive drunks and it is their job, not yours.
Yes, when seconds count, the police will be there in minutes.

Order a pizza and call the police and see which one shows up first.

The last time I called the police it took them 20 minutes to arrive. The situation did involve deadly force on the part of the assailant and I was wearing a sidearm with which I was profficient.

I didn´t shoot the guy. Didn´t need to. But I´m glad I had the option because the police were way to late to be of assistance.

Many of the students I´ve trained have not been so lucky.
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I´m with you 100%.

If only Americans were as enthusiastic about free speech rights and uh, restraining the powers of the Executive Branch as they are about the 2nd Amendment. The world would be a better place.
The NRA has never defended the other 9 'Bill of Rights' as intensely as they do the 2nd Amendment. In fact, they don't even defend the Constitution as much as they defend their 2nd Amendment to that Constitution. It's not about preserving rights, its about preserving the right to have guns, in order to? .... preserve rights?

I don't think so.
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NRA=National Rifle Association is a firearm special interest group nothing more. There privately funded to support privit gun ownership in the USA. There suport of the 2nd amendment is part of this. Dont let there "defending the costitution" fool you. Other amendments have other suporters. Rights and responsibilities have little to do with any special interest group.
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The NRA has never defended the other 9 'Bill of Rights' as intensely as they do the 2nd Amendment. In fact, they don't even defend the Constitution as much as they defend their 2nd Amendment to that Constitution. It's not about preserving rights, its about preserving the right to have guns, in order to? .... preserve rights?

I don't think so.
So join the ACLU (which does nothing to protect the 2nd).

Don´t recall mentioning the NRA which was founded 137 years for the purpose of promoting firearms instruction. Ulysses S. Grant certainly didn´t act as president of the organization for lobbying reasons.

Strongly prefer to fund GOA, JPFO or RMGO for political purposes. The NRA is far too wimpy when it comes to politics.
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Very Well. We are all Americans.

But I want all of you Mexican, Central, and South ****Americans**** to make me a promise.

If you are ever on an airplane hijacked by Islamic terrorists and the hijackers while wildly waving their weapons scream "All of the Americans stand up and get into the center" I want you to promise you will shout out, "Hey, I´m an American too"
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I would of course,but i have the impression you underestimate those guys!They would check my passport as they allways do.They would find out quickly i am an argentinian.
All fligth high jackers where allways highly educated people.I think they would ask first for all US citizens to lift their hands......and check with the papers
But in any case this is not the place to talk about this things.There are propper forums for that.
In regard to defense methods i would carry a nice ax or machete(on the inner pannier frame)as those are considered tools.If hide properly but handy could do a good defence job.
And good you could see we both are americans,it will make your US identity stronger!
I personaly have guns,practice shooting with rifles on a range.Done properly and with responsabilty is an excellent activity.More people get killed by knifes then fire weapons.
Pepper spray...maybe i would take Tabasco extra hot!
Ok i will finish this here.
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I would of course,but i have the impression you underestimate those guys!They would check my passport as they allways do.They would find out quickly i am an argentinian.
All I ask is you also declare yourself an American in such circumstances. Sort out the papers later.

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In regard to defense methods i would carry a nice ax or machete(on the inner pannier frame)as those are considered tools.If hide properly but handy could do a good defence job.
I think anybody who has ridden through Guatemala´s backroad has asked themselves, "Why am I the only person here who is not wearing a machete?"

I thought about getting one but settled on pepper spray because I didn´t think a machete would be a good defense against another machete (can´t effectively parry) and a machete is rather conspicious to carry around in urban areas once you are off the bike.
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