They usually open it once a day around 7pm. I had no trouble getting in but getting out was anouther thing. They didn 't open up until 11pm (I got there at 11am) but I did get out. There is a way around if you like mud, several dual sport bikes did it while I was waiting. In the end I just wen't to the other side of the blockade and camped till morning. No big deal.




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Hi Vic, I'm the one toy met on the KTM. Glad it worked out for you. I'm in BA now with Dakar Motos, going home Friday. Safe travels!

If you have been there you will appreciate it is a hell of a long way to bus in a heap of rent-a-mob.

The real monied tourists come in on planes or cruise ships and just as is the case in Central America where those in RHD vehicles aren't welcomed, the loss of a few tightwad bikers and overlanders isn't going to amount to anything significant.

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Not sure what this post is trying to achieve.

Yes I have been there. Several times. Most recently in Jan /Feb 2016. The friend from Rio Gallegos I mentioned in my post is Argentine and lived, until recently, in Rio Grande on Tierra del Fuego for many years. He told me about the local thugs that are rentable to cause trouble, just like they did with the Top Gear rock throwing / intimidation incident.

While riding the 250 or so km from Rio Grande to Ushuaia (not really too far on a bus....) I was able to observe a steady stream of buses and cars (2 or 3 a minute, as well as one or 2 push bikes and m/cs ) heading in either direction, so it isn't just cruise ships or aeroplanes that visit Ushuaia either. There's plenty of local folks and non air/cruise tourists on the move around the area too. Or in this case not on the move as the road is blocked.

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Ever thought of the person who really needs medical help and will be hold by the protesters cause they heard of your little trick...??
Please if you think yourself so smart do not boast about it and at least
keep it to yourself!

Let me tel you smart gay....if you don't like what I do and how I do...kep it for you self ...dint give me a lessons...ok.
And yes , I consider my self smart ...

I'm with you on this one kawazoki. No reason to get so sensitive. I keep wondering what the conditions are in Ushuaia now that tourist season is winding down.

Some commonsense is needed because people do have long memories, especially when they are deceived or taken advantage of. Lots of fantastic experiences have become out of reach because of the selfishness of a few idiots.

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Not one comment explains what the protest was about. This whole conversation seems at odd with my idea of travel and discovery. I travel to gather experiences, some are mundane, some funny, lots are seemingly traumatic. Seems like there was a missed opportunity here to learn more about the culture, politics or economy of the region. Instead these people where in the way. They were selfishly blocking the ticking off another bucket list goal. Hmm, what if their goal was more important than yours? What if they where protesting for human rights, against corruption or any number of the rotten things in the modern world? I understand that the townspeople you spoke to didn't support the protest, but clearly some did or it would not have happened. Speaking to the protestors might have lead to an understanding of what they where all about. If as adventure riders we don't try to understand the cultures we travel through what's the point. Maybe we should just stay home and watch "Long Way Around."

Finally, "we were being held hostage." Really. Being held hostage goes something like this. A group of 12 year olds, part of a boys army, armed with AK47s stops you at a road block, they take all your papers, and tosh you in a mud hut. You sweat out the night wondering if you'll be raped and murdered while your capturers get drunk outside. In the morning a blurry eyed kid throws your papers at you and tells you to go while the rest are laying about passed out. Happened to my sister in law in Africa. She also lost 12 of her teachers. Machine gunned to death in a school bus.

Do I have sympathy for your inconvenience? What do you think.


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Bla,bla,blaaaa...here comes another honest,loving,caring biker who is going to give you lessons how to behave in any given situation...please before you do any ting or you take any action ...contact this Pearson .
P.S. Oh yes I remember you ...always complaining about other peoples ways to find a solutions to get out off given situation....

I'm having a ball across various bits of France, Switzerland and Germany and can confirm that the French have been on their best behaviour, so far (I don't have a return sea crossing booked as yet though, so give it time!).

Very well said throughout young man.
You express my thoughts also but I couldn't be bothered to go beyond my own sardonic typing.
You also express why I gave up reading ride reports some years ago.

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Good comments above!

I also was waiting for someone to bring up the whole reason for the protest and explain what it was about. The inconvenience to travelers is unfortunate ... but you all shouldn't take it personally, rather consider the HISTORY of this and why it's so significant.

Obviously the crew here were not in Argentina in 1976 when the coup happened. I WAS. I saw (in person) hundreds rounded up in Buenos Aires over the month I was there. Day after day, all over the City. Huge crowds formed where ever the military trucks showed up. Thousands screamed at the soldiers as people were dragged from their apartments, crammed into waiting APC's at gunpoint. I expected the troops to open fire on the crowd at any moment. They didn't, but I took cover nonetheless ... but the Argentines got right in their face, guns to bellies. Brave mothers.

I saw the little Rat faced men with Machine guns and plain clothes in their 1960 Ford Falcons rush into apartments and haul people out. Time after time.

No one knew the fate of those taken at that moment ... but the wise ones knew their fate.

Most here on HUBB may know some of the facts of what happened ... roughly 30 thousand people were tortured and murdered, never seen again. For decades the mothers of the disappeared did an on going sit in Buenos Aires.
They adopted the name Desaparecidos.

I talked to dozens of Argentines before, during and after this period. Very dark time in Argentine history. At long last, at least some of the perpetrators have been brought to justice, but only a fraction of the guilty. Almost every Argentine I've met (Portenos mostly) either have a friend or relative or know someone who lost someone after the Coup.

The Desaparecidos need to be remembered. For many Argentines this event was a holocaust moment. It runs deep with many. It's not some minor political squabble or a simple regional protest for higher wages as riders usually see on the road in Latin America ... but a life altering event etched in Argentine history.

I'm amazed NO ONE here on HUBB realized how big a deal anything to do with this is for many Argentines.

Independent Lens . OUR DISAPPEARED/NUESTROS DESAPARECIDOS . The Film | PBS