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Couldn't have put it better myself
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Originally Posted by Tom-Traveller
Hi, Adam is right ....
I would never ever leave without camping gear and go on an adventure trip ....
It`s like in the old days, you sleep next to your camel, mule or horse and there is nothing better than the million star hotel and a nice campfire
Better to spend the budget on gas, food and drinks
But if you prefer filthy hostels with crowds of drunken youngsters, etc. .... go for it  or
Camping since I`m a kid, I or we had never any security problems and bush camping was at least half the time 
For example, in Argentina and Chile we camped for 6 months straight through and didn`t stayed once in a hostel
tent, sleeping matress and sleeping bag can be less than 5kg and doesn`t affect the handling
Thomas
www.miles-to-ride.com
PS: Hey Adam, still in SA  , next plans ?????
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AMEN!!! I couldn't have put it better myself. That million star hotel is pretty damn special...especially above 4000m
Yes I'm still in SA (Bolivia today - Chile tomorrow).
Up until a few weeks ago my plans were to head north to the Amazon but I just can't bring myself to leave the Andes (riding & bush camping on the Altiplano is just sublime) and so I've decided to stay longer in SA and ride further south, as close to the spine of the Andes as I can.
I'll be in my tent for the next two weeks solid 
Just a quick note on kit...
I have a MSR Hubba Hubba HP (2kg), Mountain Equipment down (-10) sleeping bag (1.5kg), Thermarest prolite+ pad (500g). Total =4kg
What adds to the weight the most is food & water.
My total luggage weighs 30kg and that includes all spares (inc 2xtubes), tools, laptop, 2x cameras.
All up (excluding food & water) my DR weighs 217kg, a staggering 83kg less than my F650 did. This package has transformed my journey and allowed me to explore and not just tour.
Adam
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Originally Posted by JediMaster
AMEN!!! I couldn't have put it better myself. That million star hotel is pretty damn special...especially above 4000m
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Just a quick note on kit...
I have a MSR Hubba Hubba HP (2kg), Mountain Equipment down (-10) sleeping bag (1.5kg), Thermarest prolite+ pad (500g). Total =4kg
What adds to the weight the most is food & water.
My total luggage weighs 30kg and that includes all spares (inc 2xtubes), tools, laptop, 2x cameras.
All up (excluding food & water) my DR weighs 217kg, a staggering 83kg less than my F650 did. This package has transformed my journey and allowed me to explore and not just tour.
Adam
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You've moved me to write up a register of weights. Another thing I'm always finding weighty is electronic gear. Cameras, laptops, phone, etc. and all the damned chargers and adapters they require. Guess there are always trade-offs that can be made.
Oh to just leave on an adventure without any of that stuff. Done it before but never on a long haul type trip.
I bought the Wolfman Expedition dry bag pannier system to somewhat restrict my load carrying ability (and I love their products). H'mmm, now I'm leaning toward taking my gear for fear of missing some of the great opportunities you describe Adam.
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Originally Posted by JediMaster
AMEN!!! I couldn't have put it better myself. That million star hotel is pretty damn special...especially above 4000m
Yes I'm still in SA (Bolivia today - Chile tomorrow).
Up until a few weeks ago my plans were to head north to the Amazon but I just can't bring myself to leave the Andes (riding & bush camping on the Altiplano is just sublime) and so I've decided to stay longer in SA and ride further south, as close to the spine of the Andes as I can.
I'll be in my tent for the next two weeks solid 
Just a quick note on kit...
I have a MSR Hubba Hubba HP (2kg), Mountain Equipment down (-10) sleeping bag (1.5kg), Thermarest prolite+ pad (500g). Total =4kg
What adds to the weight the most is food & water.
My total luggage weighs 30kg and that includes all spares (inc 2xtubes), tools, laptop, 2x cameras.
All up (excluding food & water) my DR weighs 217kg, a staggering 83kg less than my F650 did. This package has transformed my journey and allowed me to explore and not just tour.
Adam
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Hey Adam
thats cool, every time I look at the pics of SA .... it`s just like a miracle. One night we could see a burning flame above us .... probably a meteroit or maybe some aliens landing  .... goose bumps for sure
and btw, we are 2 with 2 bikes .... so we can split all the stuff and take huge amounts of food, water and drinks  , well at least up to 4 days in the wilderness
83 kg ..... that`s amazing, maybe I will measure our bike`s (KTM 690) someday, they should be less than your DR
Wish you all the best and enjoy every minute .... the ratrace kills me slowly, but surely 
... the countdown is ticking, summer 2013   
Greets from Switzerland
Thomas & Andrea
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