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A few things I do to help with my almost-but-not-quote carpal tunnel and riding. No clue how much is relevant to your particular problem, but I'll throw it all out anyways in case one of these can help out.
  • Do everything you can to reduce handlebar vibrations. Some handlebars vibrate less than others (look at reviews of options for your bike). You can also add accessories which decrease vibrations things like bar end weights, the "Vibranator" (http://www.vibranator.com/), and different (softer) hand grips.
  • Ensure your bike is setup for you and your style of riding if you haven't already. Handlebar height and rotation can make a huge difference in comfort and abuse on your body. This might include buying different handlebars if the angle of your current bars aren't at a comfortable angle (I switched to ProTaper ATV High bars and they were a huge improvement).
  • Add a throttle lock or cramp-buster for use on long highway stretches. I found this helps my right hand a lot.
  • Strengthen the muscles in your hand, wrist, and forearms. Strong muscles help reduce the severity of a remarkable number of problems in my experience. The powerballs already mentioned are great for this. General weight lifting with free weights also helps.
Hope some of this helps!
IMO the Vibranators are a 'must have'.

The Vibranators are very efficient 'tuned mass dampers'.
It's irrefutable that vibration causes involuntary muscle firing at the same frequency as the vibration input, aka 'tonic vibration reflex'.
Tonic vibration reflex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Vibranators interrupt and reduce the handlebar's harmonic resonance.
Tuned mass damper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hence, the elimination or radical reduction of hand, wrist and arm pain.

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Vibranators on Suzuki DRZ400S April 7, 2010 Reviewer: Dexter Ford from Manhattan Beach, CA United States I didn't think my DRZ400S vibrated that much until I installed the Vibranators. It feels like a new bike. A much smoother, more refined, enjoyable bike. I'm amazed at the difference a simple addition to my handlebars can make. All the humming, tingling, high-frequency buzz that made my hands and the rest of me feel fatigued is now gone. In fact I realized that I was shifting based on the buzz in the bars. Now I will have to listen to the motor, not my hands, for rpm info. Dexter Ford Editor at Extra Large Motorcyclist Magazine.
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IMO the Vibranators are a 'must have'.

The Vibranators are very efficient 'tuned mass dampers'.
It's irrefutable that vibration causes involuntary muscle firing at the same frequency as the vibration input, aka 'tonic vibration reflex'.
Tonic vibration reflex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Vibranators interrupt and reduce the handlebar's harmonic resonance.
Tuned mass damper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hence, the elimination or radical reduction of hand, wrist and arm pain.

Review post on our website:

Vibranators on Suzuki DRZ400S April 7, 2010 Reviewer: Dexter Ford from Manhattan Beach, CA United States I didn't think my DRZ400S vibrated that much until I installed the Vibranators. It feels like a new bike. A much smoother, more refined, enjoyable bike. I'm amazed at the difference a simple addition to my handlebars can make. All the humming, tingling, high-frequency buzz that made my hands and the rest of me feel fatigued is now gone. In fact I realized that I was shifting based on the buzz in the bars. Now I will have to listen to the motor, not my hands, for rpm info. Dexter Ford Editor at Extra Large Motorcyclist Magazine.
Do these ACTUALLY work or do you work for the company ??

It does look too good to be true but i'm willing to be educated !
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Do these ACTUALLY work or do you work for the company ??

It does look too good to be true but i'm willing to be educated !

I'm co owner of the Vibranator company.

I was riding a XR650 2 summers ago and getting PO'd at the buzzing bars. I was aware that that modern helicopters use tuned mass dampers to cancel unwanted rotorhead vibrations. I made some adjustable prototypes for the handlebars hoping a 50% drop in the vibration level. On a Harley Sportster, the vibration meter showed an 80% drop in vibs.

The local MXers were reporting the arm pump was flat out eliminated. That's when we researched vibration vs involuntary muscle firing. It appears the nervous system needs a consistent vibration frequency to lock onto. That would be the resonant frequency of the handlebar. The tuned mass dampers disrupt the rhythm and introduce another oscillation wavelength into the 'mix'. The numbness, tingling hand relief was way beyond expectations.

Regarding credibility, please Google 'Vibranators', there are allot of happy customers 'out there'.
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I'm co owner of the Vibranator company.

I was riding a XR650 2 summers ago and getting PO'd at the buzzing bars. I was aware that that modern helicopters use tuned mass dampers to cancel unwanted rotorhead vibrations. I made some adjustable prototypes for the handlebars hoping a 50% drop in the vibration level. On a Harley Sportster, the vibration meter showed an 80% drop in vibs.

The local MXers were reporting the arm pump was flat out eliminated. That's when we researched vibration vs involuntary muscle firing. It appears the nervous system needs a consistent vibration frequency to lock onto. That would be the resonant frequency of the handlebar. The tuned mass dampers disrupt the rhythm and introduce another oscillation wavelength into the 'mix'. The numbness, tingling hand relief was way beyond expectations.

Regarding credibility, please Google 'Vibranators', there are allot of happy customers 'out there'.
heh heh.. I didn't actually expect that response lol !

I'll have a look into it. It does look like a great idea and good on you for developing it

How about a Horizonsunlimited discount scheme and cheeky "no marked parcels to skip the import duty" for international customers ??
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How about a Horizonsunlimited discount scheme and cheeky "no marked parcels to skip the import duty" for international customers ??

I would have thought that a bit of sponsorship might be the order of the day here. If they work as well as the developer says they should make quite a difference and we can certainly depend on you to tell it like it was.
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I would have thought that a bit of sponsorship might be the order of the day here. If they work as well as the developer says they should make quite a difference and we can certainly depend on you to tell it like it was.
Now you're talking !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I found this while browsing for knee protectors.

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It might help along with your throttle rocker. For £18, it might be worth a try !
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Goodness gracious, I didn't realize so many people would reply. So many things to consider and think about.

So far I went the other day and bought myself a Scottoiler Cramp Buster (a.k.a throttle rocker). This seems to be good.

I also went to a Chinese torture healer yesterday and after some acupuncture... she manipulated my vertebrae and some ribs and then went to work on my wrist and well: short of being left for dead, she damn near ripped my arm off. Well, the short story is she rotated one of those small bones in my wrist which was causing my hand to be ajar, and the problem with a lack of circulation and over extension of some of the tendons/nerves in my wrist. Anyhow, she assured me it's all fixed (mechanically) now, but the tissue in my arm is bruised and punished and should recover in the next few days.

Meanwhile riding isn't so easy, however the hand is now in a very different position from what it was before.

I'll give this a week and see where I end up. Thanks for all your posts guys!

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