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I think you are on the right track with that thinking - this summer is not going to be a good time to be far away from home.
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Indeed. I have a bike trip in the USA coming up in just under a month and starting to wonder about whether Coronavirus is going to make it impossible. It's bad enough having to consider the health implications of catching it (particularly as I'm in the 'serious' demographic) but the increasingly severe travel restrictions that are now starting to appear are adding an extra dimension. At the moment the UK is not included in the travel from the EU ban the US has just brought in but I wonder if it's only a matter of time. Even if I did get there am I going to be able to get back.
I'm still planning on my August bike trip being possible but I have to admit I'm holding back on booking ferries / hotels etc.
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It looks like all flights to the US from Europe are off for non-US residents or citizens for a while. Flights are still open to all from the UK although I am unclear as to whether non-UK citizens can use them but I have not seen any specific ban but either way, I am glad not to have any trips booked at the moment, it is a good time to be at home.
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It looks like all flights to the US from Europe are off for non-US residents or citizens for a while. Flights are still open to all from the UK although I am unclear as to whether non-UK citizens can use them.
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I can see all UK-US flights being fully booked with lots of connecting flights attached. How the US authorities plan to deal with that I don't know, but I suspect they will find a way.
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Rumour has it that the UK is excluded because Trump has golfing resorts in Scotland......
If you are going to shut down flights, there is no logical reason to exclude the UK
I’m supposed to be skiing in France in a weeks time, not sure if I will be going.
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I can see all UK-US flights being fully booked with lots of connecting flights attached. How the US authorities plan to deal with that I don't know, but I suspect they will find a way.
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That's what's top of my trip worries at the moment, that so many banned Schengen travellers will now be flying out of London that Trump will chuck the UK + Ireland onto the list in a week or two.
Skiing is an interesting one. We have a flat in a French ski resort which is let out through an agency for the winter. There's been a huge music festival in the resort in March for the last few years but Coronavirus has killed it this year. I had an email from the agency yesterday saying that the flat was now vacant for that week. I've toyed with going down for a week's skiing but it's too short notice. That's one of the town's main moneyspinners for the year gone. How many day or weekend skiers are going to rethink their plans - particularly as it's virtually on the Italian border - is anyone's guess.
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Per 1pm on 12March2020 from a reputable source:
Trump's EU coronavirus travel suspension explained: who is affected and will it help?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...vel-suspended?
It's a clusterfcuk
A UK staycation is a go go
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The NC 500 will be hideously busy this year, but possibly a reduction in camper vans
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Very good!
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The NC 500 will be hideously busy this year, but possibly a reduction in camper vans
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I've ridden it a couple of times when it was called the "west coast of Scotland". It'll be great to go again, especially if the winnabagel brigade stay away.
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Per 1pm on 12March2020 from a reputable source:
It's a clusterfcuk
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Don't worry, it will get worse! 
Wait till Europe retaliates by blocking US citizens from entering the EU, airlines cancel all transatlantic flight due to lack of passengers, etc.
Currently scheduled to fly from the US to Germany in mid-May then ride around the Black Sea, but the chances of some of the relevant borders getting closed seems kinda high, so I'm waiting to see what happens.
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Don't worry, it will get worse!
Wait till Europe retaliates by blocking US citizens from entering the EU, airlines cancel all transatlantic flight due to lack of passengers, etc.
Currently scheduled to fly from the US to Germany in mid-May then ride around the Black Sea, but the chances of some of the relevant borders getting closed seems kinda high, so I'm waiting to see what happens. |
The contagion effects of reciprocity and airlines scaling back operations/ going bust are highly likely.
A friend works for BA. Since middle of last week they're offering unpaid leave, voluntary redundancy and early retirement to cabin and flight crews.
Border closures are already happening in Italy and the Stans, just to name a few.
I reckon you should be considering a ride in the US as your plan B.
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Don't worry, it will get worse!
Wait till Europe retaliates by blocking US citizens from entering the EU, airlines cancel all transatlantic flight due to lack of passengers, etc. |
It’s not about retaliation but smart actions in a difficult time.
None of the countries making these difficult decisions are doing it to golf longer or hurt other nations.
That kind of silly talk just causes grief.
But maybe that’s what those “people” are trying for...
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That's what's top of my trip worries at the moment, that so many banned Schengen travellers will now be flying out of London that Trump will chuck the UK + Ireland onto the list in a week or two.
Skiing is an interesting one. We have a flat in a French ski resort which is let out through an agency for the winter. There's been a huge music festival in the resort in March for the last few years but Coronavirus has killed it this year. I had an email from the agency yesterday saying that the flat was now vacant for that week. I've toyed with going down for a week's skiing but it's too short notice. That's one of the town's main moneyspinners for the year gone. How many day or weekend skiers are going to rethink their plans - particularly as it's virtually on the Italian border - is anyone's guess.
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Issue with Skiing is that most years you come down with a day of Lurgy, always believed it was due to the bugs from all over Europe having a mingle
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Don’t count on predictability from our Commander-in-Tweets. Shit can change in D.C. by the hour and one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing.
I for one decided last week to bag my plans for riding to Mongolia and coming back to Europe by way of the Silk Road. Smaller countries with few resources are very likely to act pre-emptively to reduce their risk. Being stuck somewhere with borders closed, unable to go back or move forward...or having “flu-like symptoms” of any severity while holed up in a tent, sounds like a bad time. I figure I’ll do some more U.S. travel this year and revisit my plans next year when things (hopefully) have settled down.
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I for one decided last week to bag my plans for riding to Mongolia and coming back to Europe by way of the Silk Road....
Being stuck somewhere with borders closed, unable to go back or move forward...
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A wise decision. Take it from someone who is presently stuck in Africa, with borders closed and unable to go out of the country (or even out of the hotel for the next 7 days).
Mongolia & the Silk Road will still be there next year.
Michael
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