Hello,

we (2) are considering to ride from Namibia to Europe through western Africa in several trips (did the same down to SA the eastern route). First focus would be Angola, where we would like to park the bikes for 1 year.

Is it possible to leave the bikes in Angola or will we get troubles when leaving without? Does anybody know a good place to store the bikes?

Does somebody have experience to get 30day visum in Europe and then enter by bike from Namibia?

What is the situation for the countries further north?

Thanks,
Oerg

Hi Oerg,

As far as I remember, there were no stamps in the passport indicating that I brought a bike into Angola. But the true test is to leave the country and without the bike to see if the customs and immigration computer records are connected in any way, (and whether they actually care if they care even if they are). Most riders are on a tight timeline (typically 7 day transit visa from the north) so I'm not sure that many have had to leave their bikes there before to test it out.

Next thought was, why did you pick Angola? It's a pretty short hop into Angola from Namibia and you would be in Luanda before you know it. I was looking at countries to leave a bike on the way up on the west coast and the main considerations were: length of ride that would fit into a fixed block of time, convenient country to fly in and out of, and ease/cost of obtaining visas. Angola is interesting in many ways, but I'm not sure I would use it as a stopping point based on the above factors unless you are planning on hitting every country on the way up or want to really explore the backroads there.

In regards to a place to store your bike, there is no Jungle Junction type place that comes to mind. There are a few locals and expats that have big bikes and they are a very friendly and helpful lot, so you might be able to connect with one of them to store your bike in their garage. There is a small bike dealer in Luanda as well, so that would be a place to explore to see if they would store your bike for you for a fee.

Happy planning.

Hi mountain Man,

thanks for the feedback. We are typicaly travelling quite slowly and I think Angola should have enough to see for a couple of weeks. We have 4 weeks time, ~1 week will be "wasted" in Namibia, then having some spare time to get the bikes parked means that there is not so much time left. We did the same way of travelling from Ethiopia to SA, it took us ~6 months in steps.

On the other hand, do you think that Congo or Gabon would be better for a stop?

If we go off the main roads, do you have an idea of the road conditions? Much sand to be expected (the only weak point of my friend...).?

Oerg

I lived in Luanda for 3.5 years (and in fact will be heading back in January)
There's more than enough to see to easily spend 2 weeks in the country, in fact you could spend a lot longer than that.

Language will be interesting, once you get outside of the major cities there's not too much English spoken, Portugese isn't too hard to pick up though.

Bike storage wise, I can ask some of the guys in our office there for their suggestions if you'd like, though I think you'd be better riding on through, many of the good things to see in Angola are a ways South of Luanda and you'd have to backtrack to be able to leave the bikes there.

Hi Derek,
we are travelling south to north so Luanda should be a perfect stopover.
If you know somebody who can store the bikes that would be great.

Do you have any recommendations what not to miss on our way up from Namibia?

Let me look back through the places I've been and also speak to some of the guys who've spent longer in the country than me as I've not overlanded as far down as Namibia so there's bound to be some things I'd miss..... give me a few days and I'll put something together for you.

It's truly a fantastic country and a real shame that they don't make it easy for tourists.

I was actually in the Angolan Consulate here in Dubai yesterday and I asked them about your best bet for getting an extended visa (most overland visas are granted for 5 days only)
She recommended that you use one of the registered tourist companies in Angola and get them to issue you a formal letter of invitation, this should get you a 30 day visa.
The only issue is that that visa will need to be put in your passport the country that the passport was issued in

A friend of mine owns one of the oldest travel companies in Angola, I'll have a chat with him when I'm there in January and see if there's anything else he recommends you do.