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Hi Chris
In my experience the terms passavants and laissez-passer are used synonymously. In any case, the document issued by Senegalese custom is only valid in Senegal. At least that was the case when I entered Senegal one year ago .

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HI ..

while most people actually use both terms , , apparently there is a difference .

a Lazzer passe is actually a temporary import permit , valid for only a country . I.e. ,a LazzesPasse from Senegal allows you to drive in Senegal for a given period of time . This is the typical for West Africa

Whereas a Passavant -more in central Africa- is kind of "Passport of the vehicle" .For example : You get a Passavant from Cameroon , they stamp it out , ... and then you enter Gabon with the very same passavant , they stamp it in .. etc...


In my case , A passavant issued in Niger , was valid also in Chad (they simply stamp it as if it were a passport ) and to Cameroon.

3 months later , a new passavant (issued in Cameroon , as I lost the previous) was used in Cameroon , Gabon , Congo and Zaire .

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Thanks for the clarification.

Actually what I always understood to be a LP: a cheap 'regional carnet' that was valid across the CFA (west or east) zone of West Africa is what Javier now calls a passavant.
Not surprised to hear they are used for eachother; I presume JC is right.

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Travelling with a 21 year old Land Rover 110 and being acompagnied by friends with a 9 year old Mitshubishi Pejaro we got to the border at Diama (avoiding Rosso at all costs) around 8pm last month. It took us 5 hours and most of our patienence and will power to get the cars in.
Luckily for us our car is first registered in 2003 and the doane simply overlooked the manufactering date on the bottom of the page (it was dark) and we were let in without any costs. Our friends however were told to rake out 250 euros for a permit, an another 150 euro for the manadatory policeman who would ensure we would drive on to Gambia within 24 hours (we were also told to feed this chap). 5 Hours later and many a discussion we paid 160 euros for a 10 days permit ( ok and a tshirt) and no policman.
So yes it is possible (supposedly simpel) but be prepared for a lot of discussing and dont give in!!!
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yes thats was me, morroc- mauri boarder,we was wondering what happened to you, did you go to rosso!!!. see you around
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Hi, again. Sorry for the late reply.

How did you do? Did it all go well, did you get to Gambia?

Yes I did go to Rosso, broke. I had to borrow money there to by the ferry ticket and pay for all the paper work, both in Mauritania and for entering Senegal. But that was no problem and costed me only a few bucks. The whole trip was going just so well. I was back in Norway the 28th of April. After that I've been going around on the Bonnie. Last tour was to The Ace Cafe reunion run in London in sept. Then the Brighton Burn Up the day after I'll go back to Africa as soon as I can.

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Morning All,

just reviving this old thread from Bamako so forgive me for not looking for more recent info on here (limited access ).

Does anybody have more recent info on this? We will be entering from Mali in a 2000 Toyota LC. We dont mind giving it a go, but our only worry is our single entry visa for Mali will have been stamped and I dont want to live in no-mans land!

Any info appreciated, we are off to the Senegalese Embassy now (with limited French) to see what we can find out.

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From our experience in Dec 2010 and from what I've read from others crossing into Senegal:

- Entry with a carnet is no issue, regardless of age of vehicle.
- Entry with a car under 5 years of age and no carnet *should* be no problem. You get a pass-avant at the border. But you may just have to deal with hassles for bribes.
- Entry with a car over 5 years and no carnet is where it gets murky. I have no idea what the rules really say. Some pay a bribe and get a pass-avant, others get a three day transit permit, others get turned back. I think it depends which official you meet, how much you are willing to pay, and the alignment of the planets.

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From our experience in Dec 2010 and from what I've read from others crossing into Senegal:

- Entry with a carnet is no issue, regardless of age of vehicle.
- Entry with a car under 5 years of age and no carnet *should* be no problem. You get a pass-avant at the border. But you may just have to deal with hassles for bribes.
- Entry with a car over 5 years and no carnet is where it gets murky. I have no idea what the rules really say. Some pay a bribe and get a pass-avant, others get a three day transit permit, others get turned back. I think it depends which official you meet, how much you are willing to pay, and the alignment of the planets.

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Thanks Ben,

Bit of an update, we visited the embassy here in Bamako and they said there no problem from us with a Carnet. We will enter from Mali in about a weeks time, see how that goes.

Thanks for your reply.

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I drove my '88 LandCruiser into Senegal at Rosso without a cdp, paid 5000 Francs CFA for a passavant. Then you can get 15 day extension in Dakar 3 times, so max 45 days. Could be that I was treated well because I'm a girl. But they are definitely able to do a 48-hour passavant. Good luck!
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Then you can get 15 day extension in Dakar 3 times, so max 45 days.
We also got our 3 day passeavants extended in Dakar, but that involved going to see the absolute chief of customs and paying handsomely.

Again I think it may be one of those situations where it depends entirely on who you talk to on which day...
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Crossing Senegal from Maroc to Gambia
i did the crossing mid March 2011 in an 25 year old Toyota Hiace. Entered in Diema and had to pay 150 Euro for the "passage" (48 hours). It costs 380 Euro´s to be escorted, could not be hassled down! But the customs allways prefere to be bribed instead, thats your chance! And the reason I paid "only" 150 Euro.
But they started asking me if I had a "carnet de Passage", and for them I luckely had to deny.
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