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Kenyan visa is easy to obtain and seems to be $50 USD for most nationalities. The only issue with the crossing is if you get there too late, you won't be able to get your carnet stamped and will need to wait until morning. They'll let you go into Moyale and you can camp at the police station for free.
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The road is doable if it hasn't rain in at least 4 days but otherwise plan for several days pushing the bike through the mud.
Wow amazing do you have more photos for us???
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hi pheebs hope you managed the moyale marsabit road it was in terrible condition when i was there as it had been raining i am now in naquru on way to kitale then uganda dont know your rout or schedule if its similar we may meet for somewhere along the way if not stay safe and enjoy the ride
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Wow amazing do you have more photos for us???
Since we drove through it mostly at night we couldn't get any good pics. Here is a pic from other guys that cross it a couple of days a part from us.
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I hope this stretch of Africa NEVER gets paved!
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Unfortunately it will... Then cape to cairo will be doable even on a Ducati 1199. actually it is possible now as you can rent a 4x4 for this somewhat rough bit... and pay huge amounts of money only couse you afford it. Thing are changing fast and we are the major cause of it.
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So you think its alright that people have to suffer very badly due to expensive, slow, highly unconfortable and mostly unavailable transportation for themselves + stuff/merchandise and lack of basically everything from water to food to healthcare because some rich westerners want to have their little once in a lifetime adventure ? Sorry, but I consider this extremely sick ...

That area is one of the poorest in east africa and in my opinion a paved road would lead to plenty opportunities to change that. If you want some first hand stories and information what kinda crazy shit is going on there, ask around in Isiolo for Paul and his "Fursa children center", the new name is "Pawel Huk Foundation / New hope for Africa" but locals will know it as "Fursa". He is a polish dude and I think is the only white person who lives in town permanently. You can ask every streetkid or in the few hotels around they will know the directions to his compound. Contact him through Facebook or his homepage New Hope Africa | Nie zostawię was sierotami… – J 14,18 and if you are around you definately should visit his place ! Very good guy, I had an awesome time in Isolo thanks to him.

By the way, the tarmac doesn´t stop in Isiolo but around 20-30km further north and when it hasn´t rained you can even do it on a 125cc classic vespa, it just takes a little bit longer and becomes more bumpy !


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Isiolo to Moyale on a motorcycle - info needed

Dear Chris, I think you just got it wrong. First the very expensive transport in the area is getting even more expensive and more inaccessible for the locals because some rich white westerners are willing to pay huge amounts of money to have their precious and fragile motorbikes over this somewhat rough stretch. Not to mention the possible extortion of any other white traveler, who from any other reason need this transport (mechanical failure or medical reason).
I find a bit naive to think that a paved road will dramatically change the situation in the area. It will commercially... and that is the only reason that road will get tared (Or haven't got tared so far - no commercial necessity). Let's put it differently. Would you be ok with the highway through Serengeti couse this way some remote villages will get more access to primarily unnecessary things? The NGO workers are getting the help in remote communities no mater the road conditions. "Coca cola" type of consumerist things will get in that community only with the "help" of a tared road. "God grew tired of us" is a good movie some what on this subject.
There are other ways to help a poor community and an tared road isn't necessary the best one. The road could be upgraded to a good sealed gravel road and the huge difference invested in water wells in the remote areas for example, or schools, or clinics or... But no; it has to be tared. This way you can have commercial traffic (lorries full of containers from Mombasa) to Ethiopia. Is the only reason why the road will get tared.
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