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HI

Just thought i would post this as I have recently driven the above trip.

A few thoughts:

Ceuta fuel costs: 83 cents a litre
Morroco about 10.40 dirams so about the same
Western Sahara about 7.50 Dirams
Mauritania: 250 ogoos?
Senegal: cant remember but it was about the same as UK

Muaritanian visas at Rabat:15 Euros - great off license over the main road get your booze while you can

Mauritanian - Senegal border:

New wash board piste about 70 Kms from the Rosso border now cuts of to the right on the main road and takes you to about 45km along the Diamia track alond the side of the estury and brings you out at the Damia Barage. No need to go any where near Rosso now.

You can get a 50 euro freedom to drive visa for your car - otherwise you need a guide. Also this borser costs about 120 euros per car. National parl fees, community tax, senegaleese visa, car visa, 35 euros to leave mauritania.

whatch out for the senegalesse police they stop you for anything and fine you.

If anyone requires anymore detailed info please let me know

Paul
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Morroco about 10.40 dirams so about the same
Western Sahara about 7.50 Dirams


Paul

Thanks for the information Paul

Was that price for Gasoil or the posh diesel?
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Hi guys,
In Feb Gasoil was about 7.50 ish in Moroc, dropping to 5.50 ish in W. Sahara.
Also, (i've not been to Gambia, so appologies if i'm wrong), but doesn't 'community tax' sound a bit suspect??
We certainly didn't pay to leave Mauri on the way to Mali either.

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Hi guys,
In Feb Gasoil was about 7.50 ish in Moroc, dropping to 5.50 ish in W. Sahara.

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Thanks Sam, thats the prices I had in my mind for fuel costs (25% increase is a lot to me)
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No worries Matt, have fun
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How much???
150 Euro to drive in Senegal?
In January it cost me 25 euro and an old mobile phone to get a 30 day Pasavant at Diamma,
I have done this trip four times now and have never paid more.
Yes the police will stop you for no reason but if you get out your mobile and ask them to speak to the British Embassy they will back off. Just hope they don't take you up on it. I have been stopped dozens of times but have always been able to blag my way out of a fine.
The Mauri community tax is legit and if you pay in Oogs it is about 2 Euros but if you pay in Euros they charge 5
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HI

Morroco about 10.40 dirams so about the same
Western Sahara about 7.50 Dirams

there are 2 qualities of gasoil available in maroc,this is the superior type,
maybe usefull i you have a new car, don´t know , never used it with my
30 year old vans...,. the regular gasoil is 7.50; 5.50 from sidi akfennir onwards.

You can get a 50 euro freedom to drive visa for your car - otherwise you need a guide. Also this borser costs about 120 euros per car.

sorry to say, they rip you of nicely. the convoi, guide thing is long time gone...passavant is 2500,- cfa.

National parl fees, community tax, senegaleese visa, car visa, 35 euros to leave mauritania.
community tax is 500,- ogs ( less than 2 euros ), national park fee is 1000,-ogs, for both you will get a reciept, that´s all.


Paul
greetz ,
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'New' piste to west of Nkt-Rosso road
Paul,

Is this the 'track' shown on Michelin 741, leaving Nkt-Rosso road just N of Tiguent, to join Rosso-Diama piste at Keur Massene (I think I can just make it out on GE).

Do you have co-ordinate for where you left the tarmac road? Thanks.

Peter
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Peter,
if you want, I can provide you the complete track for TTQV
from Nouakchott via Diama to Zebra Bar St. Louis by Mail!
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Diamma turn
Turn off the tarmac at 16.51213N,15.81247W Don't go any further or you will most probably get the mob surrounding you.
The piste to Diamma is not "new" it has been there for years.
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Sorry. I misread the original post about the "new" track. It would be nice to keep well away from Rosso.
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Thanks for the information Paul

Was that price for Gasoil or the posh diesel?
It was petrol or Sans Plomb

Cheers
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Turn off the tarmac at 16.51213N,15.81247W Don't go any further or you will most probably get the mob surrounding you.
The piste to Diamma is not "new" it has been there for years.
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You are talking about the turn off just before Rosso that takes you along the estury. The peiste that I am talking about is new in fact they where still creating it when we drove it.

Ill check on your coords and get back to you
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Paul,

Is this the 'track' shown on Michelin 741, leaving Nkt-Rosso road just N of Tiguent, to join Rosso-Diama piste at Keur Massene (I think I can just make it out on GE).

Do you have co-ordinate for where you left the tarmac road? Thanks.

Peter
No it isnt, as I said its a new track. We had the 741 and its def not on it. I will try to get the coords for everyone

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Turn off the tarmac at 16.51213N,15.81247W Don't go any further or you will most probably get the mob surrounding you.
The piste to Diamma is not "new" it has been there for years.
Richard
Richard I have just checked your coords using google maps and im afriad you are wrong, well you are right insofaras yes that piste you mention has been there for years. But the new piste that I am talking about is 45km up the road. This cuts to the right of the main road and loops around and ends up joining the piste that you mention about two thirds of the way along it.

I think from memory once we joined the piste that you mention it was a 45 min drive so I would have thought that the new piste joins the old one between 2 thirds and 3 quatrers the way along.

There is no need to go anywhere near rosso anymore

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