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23 Jun 2008
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Selling Bikes in South Africa
Apologies if this isn't the right category, but does anyone have any experience or know of the legalities of selling a UK registered bike in South Africa? Grateful for any input/advice. Thanks - Bob
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23 Jun 2008
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Why?
I rode down to south africa and my bike is still in SA.
To ship bike back will cost about 10000 rand (£660). I am a South African so I can import my bike into Sa and only pay the VAT on its value, stated on the carnet. But I then cant sell it for 2 years I think?
If this is not your situation, you will have to pay customs import duty. I dont know how much this is but I believe over 100% of bike value!
NOT GOOD!
Anyway do a Google on ITAC. ( International Trade Administration of SA)
Phone number 0027 861 843 384
The bike will also haveto be SABS approved. more money!!
call centre tel: 0027 12 428 6276/6891/6535.
Good luck! you will need it!!
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23 Jun 2008
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Contacts I made
Shirley Manana
International Trade Administration Commission of SA
Import & Export Control
Tel: 012 394 3592 to phone SA dial 0027 and drop the first 0 of the No.
Fax: 012 394 4592
E-mail: smanana@itac.org.za
Website: www.itac.org.za
"Aletta Saal" Saalal@sabs.co.za
SABS contact
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24 Jun 2008
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BUYING a bike in SA
Hotspur84
I am trying the reverse of your problem - buying two bikes in South Africa sometime between now and end of July. Then riding them up to Kenya. If you happen to have BMW 650 GS / Dakar we may solve BOTH of our problems!
Sean
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24 Jun 2008
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Funny you should say!
I have my Brit registered XL600LMF fully overland kitted in SA and my brother has a SA registered GS650 Dakar in SA! What you going to do from Kenya??
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24 Jun 2008
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Importer
Hi,
its not so easy for a private person to import an motorbike.
It´s much easyer doing it with an registered importer.
Private you need an LOA form SABS (South African Bureau of Standards) which cost around 500 Rand. Also takes a long time to get it and to register it on the system with the LOA.
the tax is not too bad I thind you pay around 7% (600cc) from the bikes value as tax and than 14 % for VAT. To the value of the bike customs adds on the shipping cost.
I am a registered Importer, so I could help you getting your bike through customs and organize the RSA pappers for the bike. Once the bike it cleared by customs I can organize the registration in one day.
If you come on an Carnet list a low value for the bike like 300 pounds. Its easyer to clear by customs without Carnet.
regards
Thomas
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24 Jun 2008
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Moto Zulu
Just sent you a PM!
Orrin
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24 Jun 2008
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Selling in SA
The plan is to ride from the UK to SA in 2009/2010. Providing the bike makes it (me too) I'm trying to determine the most financially viable option at journeys end, be it freighting it back to the UK, importing and selling it locally within SA.........or driving it off a cliff into the ocean and explaining to the insurance company that it was written off by an elephant! Decisions decisions.
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24 Jun 2008
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Ship to Cape Town!
Ship the bikes to South Africa and ride to UK!
Get all the shipping rubbish done with and when you cross the finnish line you are having a couple a s at home! Nothing worse than having all the decisions to make after a great trip.
Also mentally it is quite nice to ride "home" and when you finnish your trip you wont be some lonely biker trying to take a photo of yourself...you will have a whole welcoming committee.
Just a thought...?
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25 Jun 2008
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Funny you should say!
Orrin
I live there! My idea was to keep one of the bikes for myself here (the GS!) and sell the other one which my son (Who has a Japanese rice rocket in the UK) would have used to ride up here.
I have a mate in JNB who is looking for the bikes. I am trying to stick to BM's. Would your bro be interested in selling? I can send you contact details of my mate?
Sean
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29 Jun 2008
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Attention Dingo -Selling a bike in Kenya
Dingo
Sorry mate but this forum has a rather bizzare rule that I cannot reply to your PM as I do not have "8" posts......
So, I did get your PM and would like to talk to you about it. I may have someone else also interested.
Not sure how I can get around this 8 posts rule as this is only No3. I could always just post another 5 randomly within the HUBB but there has to be an easier way!
Any ideas?
Regards
Sean
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29 Jun 2008
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I did it!!!
I rode a bike from UK to SA on a Carnet and manaaged to sell it, you will find my email listed in the site listed below in the signature hardwayhome.blogspot.com and I can tell you how, very very easy and no dramas at all.
Cheers
Robbo
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1 Jul 2008
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what bikes are they?
im keen... what bikes are they? im looking to buy an overland bike.
jus rode down africa on a ducati so keen to get me hands on a real dirt bike.
robin.
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3 Jul 2008
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Mr Wobbin
I know of a lovely TT600RE 2004 for sale, great price loads of kit, and the owner is drop pretty hot. MUCH better than a Ducati!
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