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You are wasting your time trying to get anything other than a 5 day visa from Abuja (& possibly Matadi/Kinshasa). Anything north of Angola, forget it.

*** Although they offer them, they don't issue them *** ;-)
(Maybe it will change though???)

I'm being blunt, sorry, but I know some very well connected people who couldn't do any better than 5 days etc etc etc etc.

They got a 30 day visa in South Africa and went back up.

As you say, a shame for all of us, but that is how they want it.
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With regard to letters of invitation, I would suggest you search google or some other search engine for "safaris Angola", or if you're not squeamish "hunting Angola". Booking a day or 2 in a lodge might just bring some rewards.
Incidentally, I was supporting an expedition earlier this year, and we got four 30 day tourist visas for Angola in Brazzaville. However, there was a huge amount of wrangling and face saving going on way above our heads and I think the Angolan Ambassador in Brazza finally caved in after 5 days of badgering from one of our more, erm, influential sponsors! We were in the embassy with a Spanish biker who managed to get a 7 day transit visa there too. Not sure if they thought he was with us, but his application was certainly separate to ours. Who can say?
roamingyak is right to suggest Abuja as the best bet, but I'm sure he would acknowlege that in Africa it depends on luck, who's in the office at the time, and whether the applicant strikes the right note at the start, as to how things pan out.
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I would normally, but not really with Angola.

Visa's are only approved in Luanda, not at the embassies themselves etc etc

I have read and meet so many people being affected by getting an Angolan visa that it has developed into some kind of pleasure to try and warn people on the hubb.

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"So many people had told us different stories about the availability of an Angolan visa and the versions change depending on the time you apply so we were a bit apprehensive if we were able to get it in Kinshasa. The best place to get it would have been in Abuja, Nigeria which would have been relatively hassle free but from there you have 2 months before the visa expires so again you are limited with the rest of your journey getting to there. In Brazzaville only those that are flying to Angola can get their visa there which left us with either applying for it in Kinshasa or going straight to the border at Matadi. One of Joni’s friends an American cyclist had been refused entry at Matadi a few days earlier and so had to cycle 300km back to Kinshasa to get his visa so on that advice we went through the application process in Kinshasa.

The process we went through was as follows:....."
(long list of bs follows....)
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Fact remains: 4 x 30 day tourist visas and 1 x 7 day transit for a solo motorcyclist going by land entering at Matadi. We entered at Songololo.
April this year.
Sorry. Not meant to sound like a boast.
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Well you should boast about getting some 30 day visa's, but it sounds like you had exceptional help which isn't likely to be on offer to most.

I have heard of a few people getting 7 day visa's which is a bit better...
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I have heard of a few people getting 7 day visa's which is a bit better...[/quote]

That was sort of the point I was trying to make, that although you're right about Abuja, I had 1st hand evidence that someone had managed to get a 7 day transit "north of Angola" in Brazza.

Good luck trying to get onto Madagascar btw. Like a challenge?
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If getting a longer visa is possible from the south, then why not do that?

5 days when heading south at full speed, reach SA, get longer visa for Angola and return at leisure?

Theres a lot about "how am I going to cross in only 5 days?", not so much on what happens if you don't? If we ever get there our truck will need more time unless we drive silly hours a day, which I won't consider.

Steve Lorimar had fuel starvation problems and was several days over but nothing happened, no fine.

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So if I end up a day or two late..................................? Chill

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