Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Suzuki Tech
Suzuki Tech Suzuki Tech Forum - For Questions specific and of interest to Suzuki riders only.
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Like Tree6Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #106  
Old 12 Oct 2007
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 1,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by impasto View Post
Permission to collate and collect and put in a simple/organised format which even girls can follow?
Feel free to include/edit/kick http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...919#post148124
__________________
---
Regards Frank Warner
motorcycles BMW R80 G/S 1981, BMW K11LT 1993, BMW K75 G/S
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 12 Oct 2007
mollydog's Avatar
R.I.P.
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: california
Posts: 3,824
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatChance View Post
Oh, before the last trip we took to Moab on the DR650s, I adjusted the valves on my '05. I got about 1/4 mile before the bike quit. I had forgotten to "bleed" the looped fuel line I use with the IMS tank when I reinstalled the tank. I seem to make that mistake about once a year...
Hmmmm...interesting. I put on an inline filter (little cone shaped one) and the bike wouldn't run. Pulled filter off...all good. I have the IMS and it doesn't apprear the filter will work...especially when the IMS tank is low.

Is there an easy solution to this? I need to be able to access every drop of fuel in that tank. Ideas?

Cheers,

Patrick
__________________
Patrick passed Dec 2018. RIP Patrick!

Last edited by mollydog; 21 Oct 2007 at 22:54.
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 12 Oct 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: London
Posts: 301
As promised...

I've done a quicky hatchet job on this thread and then stole some stuff from other places and cobbled it all together and present to you the DDPP courtesy of all you good blokes on here:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...878#post154155

Its meant to be a draft so you guys to look at and comment... so go ahead.


I'm trying to come up with a more STYLISH solution, since we are not allowed to use HTML on here... and am only limited to 18,000 characters!!!!! So I've had to leave a SHED LOAD of stuff out!!


IN particular - FRANK WARNER's great guide definitely has a place on the DDPP - but no space!

I'm a web/graphic designer, so can create a separate space for it.. but it will kind of defeat the whole purpose.

a) It should remain in the HUBB, cos thats where I'd be looking for info and b) I dont want to have to use several posts to cover it.

Any ideas will be appreciated.
__________________

Some great quote about hard core travel that nobody has said yet.[/URL]
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 21 Oct 2007
mollydog's Avatar
R.I.P.
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: california
Posts: 3,824
[B]Time to put it all to the test![/B]

Ok, no reply on the fuel filter...this will have to be an on the road project.

I'm heading to Mexico (and beyond) in a couple days, will report in if I can manage to set up a blog here. I'll let you all know what worked and what didn't and ....hopefully why, or why not.

Will post back with URL or whatever.

I hope some of this thread will help other DR riders in getting set up...and other riders of other bikes too. And be sure the see the nice compileation by Impasto
on the DDPP thread as well.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...878#post154155

Patrick
__________________
Patrick passed Dec 2018. RIP Patrick!
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 22 Oct 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 992
Quote:
Originally Posted by mollydog View Post
Hmmmm...interesting. I put on an inline filter (little cone shaped one) and the bike wouldn't run. Pulled filter off...all good. I have the IMS and it doesn't apprear the filter will work...especially when the IMS tank is low.

Is there an easy solution to this? I need to be able to access every drop of fuel in that tank. Ideas?

Cheers,

Patrick
I run a paper fuel filter designed for lawn mowers, so I'm sure that small stone, cone-shaped filter will fit. My guess is that you just had air in the line.
Looping the line will allow you to have bends that aren't as tight, compared to trying to run it straight to the carb inlet tube.
I use 1/4" automotive fuel line, not the light OEM tubing.

Pulling the carb inlet line will ditch the air.
Reply With Quote
  #111  
Old 26 Oct 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Durango, Colorado, USA
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by mollydog View Post
Ok, no reply on the fuel filter...this will have to be an on the road project.
Sorry for the delay, Patrick. If I'm reading the problem correctly, I don't think you have a problem with the fuel filter, but instead need to "bleed" the fuel line of air. As noted (with full details for others), the IMS tank fuel outlet is a little lower than the carb fuel inlet. I have a fuel line that "loops" upward from the petcock and down to the carb to avoid any kinks in the fuel line. For this to work, there has to be gas in the line for it to flow properly down to the carb so it siphons if there isn't enough fuel "pressure". Sometimes, based upon the amount of fuel in the tank or if it has recently been installed, there can be air in the line at the top of the loop and the fuel will not flow. To fix this, I simply disconnect the fuel line at the carb, pull it down until it freely flows gas, plug the line with my finger while putting it back on the carb inlet and tighten it up. That fixes any fuel starvation problem caused by the looped fuel line. Bob - are we talking about the same issue with the looped fuel line?

Also, to get the maximum amount of fuel out of the tank when the level is really low and the bike has started to sputter, I lay the bike over to the left to drain the right tank lobe into the left lobe if I have run out. When I do this, I usually have to bleed my fuel line because it has probably run dry...
__________________
Pain in the Butte Ranch
Durango, Colorado
Reply With Quote
  #112  
Old 26 Oct 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 992
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatChance View Post
.... Bob - are we talking about the same issue with the looped fuel line?.............
Xactly
....
Reply With Quote
  #113  
Old 28 Oct 2007
Hornet's Avatar
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Durban, South africa
Posts: 93
I have been offered a new Suzuki DR650 at a really good price. Suzuki seem to be over-stocked on these. I am however struggling to find hard luggage for this bike. The Suzuki dealers in New Zealand are not aware of any. I have considered soft luggage but would prefer hard luggage. I notice from earlier comments that some travellers have used Pelican cases. Adventure Motorcycle Equipment in the USA have a Caribou Case System (it looks like they are Pelican cases) for USD695.00 including the mounting system. Pictures and details are on their website. I like the look of the cases and they seem easy to fit (even for technically challenged people like me).

Has anyone used these cases and are they as good as they are made out to be? Is the company reliable? Are there any other hard luggage systems available?

Peter
__________________
Peter

http://peter-onamission.blogspot.com
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 28 Oct 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 992
Mr Fat Chance runs pelicans.
Reply With Quote
  #115  
Old 28 Oct 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4,343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
I have been offered a new Suzuki DR650 at a really good price. Suzuki seem to be over-stocked on these. I am however struggling to find hard luggage for this bike. The Suzuki dealers in New Zealand are not aware of any. I have considered soft luggage but would prefer hard luggage. I notice from earlier comments that some travellers have used Pelican cases. Adventure Motorcycle Equipment in the USA have a Caribou Case System (it looks like they are Pelican cases) for USD695.00 including the mounting system. Pictures and details are on their website. I like the look of the cases and they seem easy to fit (even for technically challenged people like me).

Has anyone used these cases and are they as good as they are made out to be? Is the company reliable? Are there any other hard luggage systems available?

Peter
Try to get Suzuki to send their overstock to the UK; there are quite a few people in this country who would take one!

For your luggage query, do a search for "hard luggage" - there have been loads of posts about this in the past, probably in the equipment review forum.
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #116  
Old 28 Oct 2007
Hornet's Avatar
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Durban, South africa
Posts: 93
Hi Dave

Thanks for the advice. The DR650's were sent to New Zealand from California. At the price they are a really good buy.

Peter
__________________
Peter

http://peter-onamission.blogspot.com
Reply With Quote
  #117  
Old 29 Oct 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Durango, Colorado, USA
Posts: 26
The Caribou cases are a very nice system. However, they were not available for the DR650 when I wanted luggage for our DR650s, so I cobbled together my own. I used Moto-sport pannier racks and their universal mounting kit for the Pelicans I just bought over the internet. Moto-sport racks and mounting kits can be found HERE. This way, I could do the racks, mounts and Pelicans for right at $500 (usd). What you get for the extra money for Caribou's setup is a quick release capability. My setup requires removing two screws for each pannier. Since I seldom remove the panniers from the bike (I also use pannier liners to remove their contents easily), paying the all the extra $$ for the quick release system was not cost effective. BTW, I have this same system on both my '05 DR650 as well as my wife's '00 DR650.
__________________
Pain in the Butte Ranch
Durango, Colorado
Reply With Quote
  #118  
Old 1 Dec 2007
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arkansas, usa
Posts: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
Are there any other hard luggage systems available?

Peter

happy-trail.com has some for the dr. I use their set up on my klr. I will be puting their bags on my wife's dr The teton 7" is what I would recomend. They are lighter than the pelican bags. They ship over sea and are good help on adventure rides.
Reply With Quote
  #119  
Old 6 Dec 2007
MikeS's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,187
Dr650 Se 2003

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...5-2003-a-31432

I've been offered a 2003 DR650SE in Australia for $5,000Au with 6,000kms and a staintune exhaust which I believe gives a bit more power and allows a wider choice of luggage options.

It seems a good deal but I know very little about these bikes other than the earlier year models might have had a few issues. So apart from the normal stuff you look for when buying a bike, is there anything in particular I should look for and is this about the right sort of money for this kind of bike in Australia?
__________________
Mike


www.singapore-scotland.blogspot.com
www.argentina-alaska.blogspot.com
My little Vid: India/Pakistan

BMW R1150GS
Suzuki DR650 SE: Ride it like ya stole it. Oh, somebody just did...
Reply With Quote
  #120  
Old 6 Dec 2007
Hornet's Avatar
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Durban, South africa
Posts: 93
Hi Mike

Others with far more experience and knowledge of these bikes can comment on the technical details. I have just bought a 2007 DR650 and absolutely love it - they are fun and easy to ride. I paid NZD8 000 for mine. They really are great bikes. The upgrade options (tank, screen and luggage) in NZ and AU are very limited but you can get much in the USA on the net. I imported a larger IMS tank and a screen. Even in NZD they were reasonably priced.

Would probably pay to see what you could get a new one for.

Peter
__________________
Peter

http://peter-onamission.blogspot.com
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 5 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 5 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wanted Acerbis 22/25L Dr650 Tank Gipper TRAVEL Equipment for Sale / Wanted 7 14 Apr 2007 17:57
Dr650 Cracked frame Donn Suzuki Tech 5 24 Feb 2006 03:53
DR650 Bulletin Board PeteSC Suzuki Tech 2 19 Jun 2004 02:10

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27 2025
Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
Ecuador June 13-15
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
CanWest: July 10-13 2025
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21 2025
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 22:47.