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I'm more than happy with the Scott's perfomance but after a long think (and having a spare manifold in the garage) I ended up with this yesterday.


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All,

Your thoughts have been invaluable and I have been surprised with the diversity of answers, there appears to be a love hate rivalry with automatic lubricants system and the good old, tried and tests DIY!

I spoke with a great many people, including the head technician (in person) at BMW Manchester who gave me a straight answer.

BMW do fit the spigot to the older F650GS rubber manifold and they do encourage others to do so, Naturally, that other person "should also be a qualified technician from an approved BMW outlet"

From talking to other mechanics problems tend to stem from Ham Fisted installations which are destined to fail. But, the VAST majority of people (who are probably users of the system) are clearly happy and would recommend having the Oiler.

To bring things to a (happy) conclusion, Scottioler now have 2 more additions to the vSystem family, both born on Sunday and will be tested today with a trip from Manchester to Fife (and back later this week).

Rest assured, I will keep you all up-to-date on every move that little spigot makes!

- curry man, just wish I saw your post yesterday before I went for the power drill and drill bit!

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having had dealings with both scottoiler and bmw i would trust the scots, i wouldnt trust bmw as far as i could throw their £270 heated grips
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having had dealings with both scottoiler and bmw i would trust the scots, i wouldnt trust bmw as far as i could throw their £270 heated grips
Reassuringly expensive eh !!!

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I'm not a fan of scotoilers. I think they're counter-productive psychologically. There is a tendency to feel that once they're fitted you no longer to worry about the chain. Oil sticks to road dirt and turns into a low grade grinding paste. I feel it's best to just keep the chain clean and lightly lubed to keep it healthy. For my money I'd fit a decent chain, ie anything other than a stock BMW one and just keep it tidy manually.
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I'm not a fan of scotoilers. I think they're counter-productive psychologically. There is a tendency to feel that once they're fitted you no longer to worry about the chain. Oil sticks to road dirt and turns into a low grade grinding paste. I feel it's best to just keep the chain clean and lightly lubed to keep it healthy. For my money I'd fit a decent chain, ie anything other than a stock BMW one and just keep it tidy manually.
I used to feel the same as you until my chain life doubled after fitting mine.

Those who 'Fit and forget' can only blame themselves. I think you would find that those who never inspect their chain after fitting an oiler probably wouldn't do even if they hadn't. At least their lubricated chain will be in better condition than a non-lubricated one.

Anyway, the scott oiler feed pipes fall off and snap so often, that you're always down by your chain having a fettle.
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Good point, I guess. I'm surprised the life doubled, or to be honest you noticed any difference if you cleaned and lubed the chain regularly yourself. Impressive stuff.
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Good point, I guess. I'm surprised the life doubled, or to be honest you noticed any difference if you cleaned and lubed the chain regularly yourself. Impressive stuff.
When you're sometimes riding 200 mile days, for days on end. You can't practically oil your chain every 100 miles.

For the average biker who rides maybe 2000 miles a year, I agree that you probably wouldn't notice if you bother with maintenance at all.

For those doing serious miles such as continent crossing, constant lubrication really does seem to make a difference.

If you can be one of those people who oils there chain twice a day, you're a far better man than me
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The other thing with the oil used for these types of thing, is that it's thinner and not designed to stick to the chain like stuff from a can. It flings off taking with it the grit and dirt that would otherwise stick, and is constantly replenished from a clean source.

The trick is learning the right setting to keep the chain lubed and not the entire back of the bike!
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I have never had a problem with spending the 5 mins cleaning and lubing the chain daily. It's just part of the bike checks on or off road.
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I only have one word for you:
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I have one on my F650GS and it's really cheap to buy, easy to fit AND really good.

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I only have one word for you:
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I have one on my F650GS and it's really cheap to buy, easy to fit AND really good.

Cheers bloke

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I disagree, 6 worth of junk, may work if you do 5 miles a day to work and back, ours didn't make it out of Europe.
Oh no just noticed we're on a chain oiling thread again wasn't the thread about drilling inlet manifolds
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All,

Since we like the Scots so much, they have kindly returned the favour with a sneaky competition.

Scottoiler $2000 Prize Fund Competition - Scottoiler vSystem Carb EO Chain Oiler

Dave ett made a good point, the important thing to remember is the Oiler uses a thinner lube than just good old engine oil.

We are just back from a 500 mile round trip in 3 days, (granted it has been on tarmac - and we will be seeing a lot worse in months to come) but both chains are sparkling with 'just the right amount of lube sitting between the rings' There is no over spill nor is the wheel or - for that matter - my neck covered in lube.

Its all in the correct flow.

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There is excellent alternative to scottoiler developed and sold on ebay.uk by what I believe is bunch of motorcyclists with engineering background.
I installed 2 of them to bikes of my friends and they never looked back. Main advantage is type of pump they using and independent from vacuum + cheap.
Very well made too.
The only thing I changed - I made "splitter" block with 2 nozzles that attaches to end of hose coming out of oiler to lubricate O-rings zone from 2 sides. But probably with latest variant they make - wick nozzle - it won't be needed.
One like this:

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