Do the people who use slime or similar stuff use it in both wheels? I've read somewhere that it wasn't a good idea to put it in the front tyre from a balance point of view - but i think it was sportsbike riders saying it can be a problem at high speed on light(ish) bikes. Which my guess is doesn't really apply for touring on heavier and loaded up bikes.

I am totally fed up with being about the unluckiest person in the world when it comes to punctures. Starting to plan a trip round Europe (my first) and definitely want some kind of slimy good luck!

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Slime them both. Great stuff and it does not affect the handling.

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I know of two bikers here in the UK, riding on normal roads that have had punctures and ultra seal did not work, they were normal size holes, ie, screw or nail size. Then the problem you have, is you cannot use a plug kit, as the glue will not set on the slime. We are off to Turkey Sept-Oct 06, having new Conti Road Attacks fitted, and I am real unsure which to go with. Slime or take some plug kits. I have used the plug kits twice before, and they have never let me down.....

Take the plug kits and then back up the repair with an internal patch and / or a tube when you get the chance .
It's a " Belt and braces " type of repair but has more chance of working and will take you the miles you may need to go .
I've found the "gorilla snot" type of stuff to be good for small punctures such as thorns ,but not so good [ ie crap] for bigger ones .
AND when all is said and done it's only a temporary repair isn't it !

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well i've slimed the rear tyre. Front is almost worn out so thought i'd wait until i change it. The question was how much to put in? The guide on the tube said tyre height x width x 0.65 = how many fluid ounces to put in.

I'm no maths genius but somethings wrong when it comes out as 105

Put about 6oz in i reckon and will see how it goes.

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The best tyre selant/gunk is a product called OKO, it is advertised and used in agricultural vehicles but can be used in bikes, cars trailers and cycles. I think there are 2 types, one for tubeless tyres and one for yubed.
This product is also half the price of the other stuff sold in bike shops.

OKO will seal small punctures ,but only for a while .
Tubes cannot be patched after they have had this stuff in them .
If you find a nail in your tyre ,leave it alone and OKO may get you home .

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Hmm, it does 'sound' like it would be good for my BMW

Hi All

Ultraseal is a permanent sealant, not a temporary fix, it coats the inner of the tyre including the tyre walls - approx 4-5 oz will normally surfice - thus ensuring that the tyres are not unvalanced. The product will fix holes up to 5mm official figures up to 9mm unofficial dependent on luck. The product has been tested up to 180mph and was recommended by the BMW motorcycle club - can supply copies of article from club journal. The is a heavy duty version of Ultraseal that will seal much larger holes but this is intended for slow moving plant - 30-40mph max.
Ultraseal was used by on of the teams in the Paris-Dakar and they were the only team NOT to suffer punctures. Several friends and acquaintances have used this product on varying forms of transport: Bikes - Triathlons/IronMAn events, Motorbikes - both overland types and fast road/track bikes, cars, vans trucks, buses and 4x4's. Have even supplied to Limo's and taxi's.
Have no doubts that this product - ULTRASEAL - will prevent the vast majority of punctures and in the event of what is termed a "terminal" or "catastrophic" puncture it will bleed the air slowly from the tyre allowing the vehicle/bike to slow and stop safely.
If anyone wants to see supporting literature I will happily send some out, and if you need your tyres doing then I can help.
Note: I only took on this product as it works - "exactly as it says on the tin" - I know from the experience of friends and personal experience.

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Chris
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I have used Slime (the green stuff) and Ultraseal in the past, and currently stick to Ultraseal, in both My 1200 Bandit & my SO's SV650. The Ultraseal seems to last longer, but isn't always permanent, so I also have a "Stop & Go" tyre plugger, which I believe are easily available from the USA, and in the UK, I found a seller on Ebay.
My advice is to always carry a plug kit if you are going long distance, and have Z-rated tubeless tyres, as more tyre repair shops are refusing to repair these high speed tyres in the UK.

Just my 2p's worth,
Andy

The stuff works. I use slime. Helps maintain tyre pressure too.

The only time it leads to an imbalance is if you hit a big pothole at speed. But that imbalance lasts for only a couple of seconds or so.

Keep checking your tyres for nails and screws, esp the latter.

........for going off topic but.......
I've heard the suggestion that wire spoked wheels can be made tubeless (obvious advantages re puncture repairs) - does anyone have experience of this and might these products be relevant? - but then i suppose if you can't use plugs it negates the advantage - but then perhaps you don't need to? - but am I being thick? - can i just use this stuff in the tubes?
Thanks
Mick

Ultraseal and slime do not work they actualy can slow a puncture down if the hole is in the tread - not sidewall.
If the hole has been made fom compression then forget it but for thorns it can slow it down so that you don't get a fast deflation however by the end of the day or next morning the tyre will be flat.
I ride a lot off road and have tried them all as I hate fixing flats. The only product Ive seen to work a little is the product called OKO which is meant for farm vehicles. 250ml in each tyre should do it for a dirt bike, maybe a little more for a beemer due to larger/wider tyres.

Made by Linseal and it's called OKO

As it isnt marketed at motorcycles it is very cheap (£7 for 1 litre)

Hi All

Ultraseal does work - if it didn't I would not be involved with it - OKO as previously mentioned is for Farm Vehicles, slow moving vehicles not intended for road use. The is a thicker 'fluid' and is not meant for use on road or as speeds over approx 20-30 mph off-road. Ultraseal do a heavy duty - read similiar type of product, but this is limited to use for vehicles that do not exceed 30 mph. The normal Ultraseal product is proven and tested up to 180 Mph!!

Chris

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Further to my previous post, there are a few types of OKO, one is meant for Farm vehicles and is thicker however the one I meant and the one I use is for road use and works better than all the others. Ultraseal just did not work for me and the punctures were caused by thorns in the bottom of the tyre, it did slow the air escape down but did deflate within 20 minutes.

Tyre balls or mouses are the only answer and I believe mouses melt after a while. Anyone used tyre balls for long distance? they seem to be rather soft (off road only).