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Snakebites....
snakes can figure out the difference between a dead tryre and a warm human!

Ultraseal tips
You can use it in inner tubes- the centrifugal force of the wheel spinning ensures a smooth coating- go for a short ride as soon as you have put the right amount in-
It remains 'liquid' in the tyre so you might get a strange feeling a short distance until the wheel has spun round a bit and evenly coat the tube again (or tyre)

It is 'washable' as in it is a myth that tyre repairers wont touch your tyres when ultrasealed- If they say that then just find water and wash out the tyre which can then be plugged (for tubeless) or vulcanised.

For tubed tyres, trick is to hold the hole at the top and 'squeeze' the ultreasel down so that it doesn't seep out. Wash top of tube, dry, sand down a bit then do your usual patch work AND ALLOW GLUE TO DRY PROPERLY.
common mistake is to try to refit same tube and ride off when the glue has not had time to bond.
Use your new tube, make a proper repair and allow to dry while you sleep.

Ted's right as to carry spare tubes of lotsa glue and few spares anyways.
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Snakebites....
snakes can figure out the difference between a dead tryre and a warm human!


Ultraseal tips
You can use it in inner tubes- the centrifugal force of the wheel spinning ensures a smooth coating- go for a short ride as soon as you have put the right amount in-
It remains 'liquid' in the tyre so you might get a strange feeling a short distance until the wheel has spun round a bit and evenly coat the tube again (or tyre)

It is 'washable' as in it is a myth that tyre repairers wont touch your tyres when ultrasealed- If they say that then just find water and wash out the tyre which can then be plugged (for tubeless) or vulcanised.

For tubed tyres, trick is to hold the hole at the top and 'squeeze' the ultreasel down so that it doesn't seep out. Wash top of tube, dry, sand down a bit then do your usual patch work AND ALLOW GLUE TO DRY PROPERLY.
common mistake is to try to refit same tube and ride off when the glue has not had time to bond.
Use your new tube, make a proper repair and allow to dry while you sleep.

Ted's right as to carry spare tubes of lotsa glue and few spares anyways.
I wasn't sure if you're joking or not ! Snake bites are a type of puncture causes by rim pinching but i'm sure you knew that !! lol

I cleaned and cleaned the inner tube but the film would still interfer with the patches..

The stuff is impossible to remove. It gets everywhere and as soon as you think you've cleaned the area, another lot will ooze out of the hole.

I threw the tube away in the end. A brand new £25 heavy duty tube too
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The only tubes I had with Ultraseal got binned. The rear in France as described, the front I changed out with the next tyre and put in the bag as my spare. It started oozing gloop in the bag, so I bought another and thought I'd cut up the gloopy one for bungee connectors/storage etc. Having cut it open I ran it under a tap and tried cleaning with white spirit. This stuff does not shift, it went in the bin. I can't see how you'd clean it enough to take a patch at the roadside.

I am also struggling to follow the logic here. If I'm carrying spare tubes (or a plug kit), a compressor and tyre levers, which I know how to use on the tyres I fitted myself with lots of soap, on the basis that some Python might be in the mood for a 17-inch Metzler and the gloop only deals with Adders, why would I even bother with the goo? Surely I just feed Hissing Sid some passing sheep, change the tube and look forward to patching the spare over a cold one on the campsite later?

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Assume that Ultraseal is a synonym for green "Slime": I used it in the tubes on my 400cc dirtbike. Had a puncture on the front (snake bite: very poetic btw TWB ) and all it did was make a mess. A big mess. On the side of the trail I put a spare tube in and binned the Slimed/punctured tube. Now I run mooses in the dirtbike and carry spare tubes/patches/pump/compressor in the more road-oriented bikes.
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I use the real Ultraseal product (colour is sort of blue- slime I think is bright green) and know this to really be water soluble-
Seems that Chris is right as what Ted may have used could be bright green 'Slime' which is horrible (IMHO)
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I use the real Ultraseal product (colour is sort of blue- slime I think is bright green) and know this to really be water soluble-
Seems that Chris is right as what Ted may have used could be bright green 'Slime' which is horrible (IMHO)
yes, I did use the Slime !!! And yes, it is HORRIBLE !!

I thought they were all pretty much the same compound.
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My stuff came in an Ultraseal box complete with BMW Club flyer saying how it could also be used to cure certain personal diseases, was an aid to walking on water and could be used as an emergency salad dressing. This was dark red!

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When I was on the way to Spain on my mates bike (delivering it to his villa for him) he used puncturesafe Puncturesafe total tyre protection in the tiers.
Can't say if it stopped a puncture or not as the tiers stays the same all the way.
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the correct spelling is TIRES,
Maybe where you're sitting. It's how you spell it in ENGLISH though.
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Ultraseal

The 'real' Ultraseal can be washed off - pm or email me if you need some
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On my way to Mexico I got a small trim molding nail in my brand new rear tire. I stopped and purchased a bottle of Slime and put it in the leaking tire. I then rode 2000 miles checking the tire every morning. The pressure remained constant. After getting home I got another nail right next to the first one. This repair I made with the "gummy worm" repair with a copius amount of glue. Both repairs lasted another 5500 miles, I just replaced the tire this spring before another trip as I was getting nervous about how much longer my repairs would last.
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Ultraseal does work, i know a few people who have used this but it is a temporary repair. You should "try" and get it professionaly repaired asap. One downside is that most tyre fitters wont touch the tyre after its been ultrasealed, so in many cases, if you use it , you bin the tyre. I think its best left for emergencies.
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My sixpennyworth, 145,000mls 99% overseas in the last 6 years. Only once running on un-ultrasealed tyres and on that occasion 5 plugs in the rear and 3 in the front plus a nerve and body janggling 20ml ride on flat tyres when I ran out of plugs. Mind you that was in Zambia where the roads in the north are covered in the razor sharp shards of steel reinforcing bands from exploding truck tyres. I am now down in Ushuaia for new year and have put 10,000mls on my present tyres and I´m estimating another 3-4000 before having to replace them and yes, I am carrying enough ultra seal for the new set. Ride safe and a happy new year.

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