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50MPH Limit Scam spreading throughout the UK. We need to act!
Hi All

We live in the fairly laid back county of Oxfordshire and this Sunday, had our first run out for the year to Stratford on Avon, who for anyone that knows is a great and classy bikers meeting place. However, watch out if you park on the newly rebuilt waterfront, as apparantly they take pics of the bikes parked on there and then very kindly post you a parking ticket for £70! BarStewards or what?

Anyway, on our quite quick round trip of about sixty miles, we were all quite upset to see that Warwickshire Council has been busy over the winter and has implemented 50 MPH limits all over the county! These are on fine large dual carriageways and on most of the main A roads we went on.

Becoming more and more frustrated with the slow pace of the traffic flow and mulling over why they had made this pathetic decision, I suddenly had a Eureka moment! No I didn't run down the Fosse Way naked, I just suddenly realised why this has been done, as get this, now every vehicle, including Trucks, Vans, Buses, Volvos towing Caravans, Honda 90's etc, apart from restricted 50's, can now all be nicked by Greed Cameras, with average speed cameras being fazed in as soon as possible, according to reports in MCN.

This is terrible and it spoiled part of the day.

On my return, I looked on the web and came up with the fact that Warwickshire Council ignored Police advice, who were opposed to the lowering of the National Speed Limit and just went ahead and did it anyway.

How do we complain about this unfair Warwickshire decision and of the totally unreasonable proposed 220,000 miles of UK roads that will have a 50 MPH limit, enforced by thousands of average speed camers! This will be the end of biking for fun in the UK?

Protest? You bet, where do I sign?

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Hi All

We live in the fairly laid back county of Oxfordshire and this Sunday, had our first run out for the year to Stratford on Avon, who for anyone that knows is a great and classy bikers meeting place. However, watch out if you park on the newly rebuilt waterfront, as apparantly they take pics of the bikes parked on there and then very kindly post you a parking ticket for £70! BarStewards or what?

Anyway, on our quite quick round trip of about sixty miles, we were all quite upset to see that Warwickshire Council has been busy over the winter and has implemented 50 MPH limits all over the county! These are on fine large dual carriageways and on most of the main A roads we went on.

Becoming more and more frustrated with the slow pace of the traffic flow and mulling over why they had made this pathetic decision, I suddenly had a Eureka moment! No I didn't run down the Fosse Way naked, I just suddenly realised why this has been done, as get this, now every vehicle, including Trucks, Vans, Buses, Volvos towing Caravans, Honda 90's etc, apart from restricted 50's, can now all be nicked by Greed Cameras, with average speed cameras being fazed in as soon as possible, according to reports in MCN.

This is terrible and it spoiled part of the day.

On my return, I looked on the web and came up with the fact that Warwickshire Council ignored Police advice, who were opposed to the lowering of the National Speed Limit and just went ahead and did it anyway.

How do we complain about this unfair Warwickshire decision and of the totally unreasonable proposed 220,000 miles of UK roads that will have a 50 MPH limit, enforced by thousands of average speed camers! This will be the end of biking for fun in the UK?

Protest? You bet, where do I sign?

Cheers

Chris
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I'm down at the other end of Oxfordshire and I've been seeing this creeping across the county for years.

One local road has been 60 since I've lived here but about 5yrs ago one short stretch started to break up. The council slapped a 30 limit on the whole 4 mile length with notices saying it's for your own safety and left it for 18 months until we got used to it. After the repairs were done the limit was put back up to ... 50! That 50 section has now been used as the start point to extend it bit by bit along the rest of the road.
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What is the common element in all road accidents? - speed.
They've got us...Their logic is irrefutable: to hit anything first you have to be moving....



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As I understand it, when altering a speed limit councils are supposed to go through some sort of statutory consultation process, notify the Department of Transport or whatever it's called, and use an objective set of criteria based on accident figures etc. If Oxfordshite CC hasn't followed this, they would perhaps lay themselves open to some sort of judicial challenge?

Speed limits - how they are set : Directgov - Home and community

The reason behind all this is that the government wants constant yearly reductions in road casualties. The early stuff, like drink-driving and seatbelts, was a sort of 'low hanging fruit'. But as time has gone on, it has become harder and harder to find measures that have any sort of impact - we are now firmly into diminishing marginal returns territory. Hence all these measures such as busting people for eating sweets while they're driving, or the proposed 50 mph national speed limit, that cause a lot of harassment and inconvenience to motorists but probably don't make that much of a difference - apart from revenue to HM Treasury.
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apart from revenue to HM Treasury.
and there we have it!

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The reason behind all this is that the government wants constant yearly reductions in road casualties. .
It's an industry. Think of all the people in casualty reduction partnerships, law enforcement, PR, local government and so forth doing their oh so important jobs, saving lives, keeping the paper mills open and stationary suppliers in business. If we start to admit that all cases of life so far discovered have been fatal they'll have nothing to do except turn the whole PR machine against anyone who says they are pointless.

As with most circumstances of this nature you'll struggle to find a pollitician who'll stand up and say enough is enough, it isn't worth thousands of man hours and tax payers pounds to reduce the number of injuries from 3000 to 2999. The safety clowns know their own jobs well enough to control the system and a massive UK disease is people who want laws to control other people.

Sorry guys; get used to it, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Anyone got a few million quid to start a political party that believes in small government and personal responsibility for the UK?

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