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In much of the world you will not be travelling at over 60mph, so power as such is not that important, torque is good MPG is good, and low weight is very good for mud and sand and the costs of transporting your bike by air or sea. Size is also good when you want to bring the bike into your hostal.



So for me, around 50 BHP/60 MPG and a wet weight of under 200Kgs without luggage, less would be better.
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I've never ridden a bike in my life that I wish I had less power. Why would you ?

However, power usually comes with either weight or less reliability. Or both.

So, like all of us , you will have to find the bike that gives you the correct balance of power/weight/reliability that suits what YOU want to do.
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I've never ridden a bike in my life that I wish I had less power. Why would you ?

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So why do all these Behemoths come with ASR (marketed as "traction control")?

OK, wrong choice of rider/tyre/throttle to RPM ratio, but once power is beyond manageable levels it does seem rather pointless. Pointless power comes with weight and the combination requires further management. A downward spiral some designs seem to have hit.

My BMW R1100 had too much power. Extremely easy to ride past yellow boxes fast enough to pay for the pleasure, too heavy to be a pleasure any other way. Of course a bigger rider may take the threshold of pleasure to pain higher, but it is there IMHO.

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I also think you'll find that most of ur power rangers are now riding Super Duke R s + Streetfighters ..........and occasionally Mt10 s if our customer base is anything to go by
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Its of course great fun to have lots of power available but what about the old saying «Its more fun riding a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow»

I have an old acquaintance who had an obsession for old Kawasaki triple twostroke bikes. And he had a nice collection of those. We always admired the H2 750 cc, sometimes the H1 500 cc too. But he told me honestly he liked to ride the 350 cc best as he could open the throttle max now and then without risking being throwed into the surroundings by sheer power. Twisting the throttle max on the 750 was just too wild and dangerous.

So I wonder when todays big Advbikes that have more than twice the power of the old H2, what will they be like if you really open the throttle max now and then? But I do understand there are and must be (?) several censors and systems onboard that controls all these enourmous amount of power.

I wouldnt mind a bike with a nice bit of power to ride on paved roads and firm gravel. But for a travel/overland bike power numbers are not that important to me. Rideability, torque, reliability and economy are much more important - and then I adjust to the bike....
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To answer ur question about what happens when u turn the electronics off....Jeremy McWilliams developed said Super Duke R and he described it as nearly unrideable with everything switched off Years ago I spoke to John Reynolds about his Crescent Suzuki bsb bike.....he had the power lowered as it was too powerful for the circuit at Thruxton........therefore I would humbly suggest that most riders couldn't use 100bhp fully if they were honest . A quik look at most of the telemetry stored on certain modern bikes suggests this is def the case except on a track possibly , so what on earth u do with 170bhp I have no idea
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In much of the world you will not be travelling at over 60mph, so power as such is not that important, torque is good MPG is good, and low weight is very good for mud and sand and the costs of transporting your bike by air or sea. Size is also good when you want to bring the bike into your hostal.



So for me, around 50 BHP/60 MPG and a wet weight of under 200Kgs without luggage, less would be better.
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