I am still planning to leave on an RTW May 22, 2022. The first 6 months in Canada and Alaska, with the next 6 months in the states. I think this will be doable....and then into Central America, 2023. Here's why I am confident that travel will open up and needs to open up....we bring dollars with us, and those dollars will be seriously required for any form of financial recovery to take place. Tourism is a HUGE part of a lot of countries income.....they need us to travel. I expect restrictions, tests, proof of vaccination etc...at least until 2023/2024 - and it may take more time to navigate thru borders and such....but its not just that we want to travel.....our $ are needed to help fund a recovery. Many arms will be willingly held out to accommodate travel at the earliest possible moment - and with attention to safety and precautions, we should be able to do this without spreading problems. The above is both conjecture and wishful thinking......Be safe.

I'm hoping that HU NFLD will be a go for this summer, but the pessimistic part of me says....hahahahahaha.

August 2020, I did a solo 8 day trip revisiting places in Ontario that I hadn't been to in years. It made me realize there are still many places in my own backyard that I haven't seen.

This may sound boring to some, but I feel, with the lack of out of country tourism visiting Canada, my trip has put some dollars in a few pockets, which in the end may help keep these businesses going for next year.

I had often said travelling in Ontario would be restricted to my senior years, at 63yrs of age perhaps these are my senior years and my youthful mind hasn't acknowledged that yet....lol

brian

I can feel a reverse ferret coming on Vaccine passports for UK nationals, there is an inevitability about the need for proof of vaccine for international travel, and I would find it difficult to see that it’s a greater infringement on liberties than driving licences or passports. But maybe our benighted govt wants to keep everyone at home, rather than the pretty open minded travellers that many UK people are.

One result could be that facilities such as campsites die of underuse.

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The EU - remember them? - are putting together what is effectively a vaccine passport (see link here - https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210301-eu-to-propose-covid-19-vaccine-passports-in-march). Once the system is in place and working I can see it rolling out across the world (except for the UK which will want a different colour cover on it).

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The smartphone will then finally become a digital footrest .. and not only when traveling. Well done!


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May be we need a kind of id-scanner for the next HU-Meetings in Europe ...

It is funny to see, that just some not important countrys are planning or giving advantages from vaccination to natural antibody you get from having corona.

What make absolutely sence, because 30% of the population of europe already had corona. To do a additional vaccination makes no sence.

It is not proven (instead of the vaccination makers) , that a vaccination gives a better imunisation compared to natural. There are no independent tests who shows that they help against the south africa derivate of covoid.


At the wuestenschiff forum is a list of countrys and how they handle it,

https://www.wuestenschiff.de/phpbb/t...mp-t56218.html

Just some (c) countrys like Georgia prefere a Vaccination over a natural covid recovery at their travel restrictons...

But I guess, the pharma industry will make it happen, that we all need vaccination - and we all pay it personal or with taxes

Surfy

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I haven't read all the replies but I'll chirp in.

PLAN YOUR TRIP. There have been a million reasons not to plan a trip before Covid, and there will be a million after too.

Sure, it's pretty difficult now but not impossible. My FB news feed is full of people on trips right now. I just regret that I didn't escape the U.K before they shut the door properly.

Okay, U.K sucks at the moment.. We can't leave. But that won't last past the summer (Fingers crossed).

People have done RTW in the middle of World wars, famine and plagues. Before GPS and the internet too.

There are far too many naysayers who are loving this excuse not to do the trip that they were probably never going to do anyway.

It takes me back to the old days when people would say they couldn't afford to go RTW. But they ride a £20,000 GS that they bought with cash.

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I would be happy if that will be possible.
Escape winter in Europe. For some months. Fly i, rent or buy/sell. Enjoy. No shipping of bikes.

Argentina one time
Colombia next year
Vietnam 3rd year
Mexico 4th year
Chile+ Peru next year
South africa
Australia....

There are more trips of that kind than I can do in my lifetime

I would love that. Is is frome more interesting than drive from A to be with the goal to tick that trip off the list (Alaska-Ushuai on the gringo trail)

I just saw that our famous Itchy boot made that decision.

She realized that there will not be any Argentina-Alaska type of trip in the foreseen future.

So she took her luggage. Went to South Africa. Bought a bike.
And out on adventure.

https://www.itchyboots.com/motorcycl...he-new-normal-

But,
I will start much easier.
I am in Algarve/Portugal.

And when/if restrictions are lifted.
My start will be
EN2 including detours
https://www.allaboutportugal.pt/en/a...outh-in-4-days
(Much more than 4 days)


and EN222

https://www.dangerousroads.org/europ...ional-222.html



That is my small wish for start of this season.....
But maybe to much to wish......

Dont`t know where you got this number, Surfy.
Afaik there are 746 Mio Europeans and 38,7 Mio (official!) infections up to now. (Nobody knows exactly the estimated number of unreported or unrecognized cases)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...opment-europe/

That means EU has an infection rate of a little more than 5% up to now.

Anyway the problem will be that you have to add in general new costs in planning to your travel budget

You maybe have to add a longer travel time to your trip planning due to possible quarantime by govermental restrictions.

It`s imaginable that you will have to deal with time consuming restrictions and new processes through limitations in visas and permits for certain areas during your travel. May some goverments will come up with the idea of new complicated registration processes? Or they imply in future gps based trackers for interesting parts of a country which will trim your routes iand add additional time/costs to your budget.

You will need a budget for testing for sure and maybe you will need an amount of money if the virus mutations require additional vaccination during your trip.

Due to fact that a vacination doesn`t mean that don`t get a C19 mutation, you need to be prepared financially to spend money if you will suffer (in what way ever) from C19 during your travels. (Right now there isn`t science-based data available to show how the vaccines will effect the course of disease progression of vaccinated people - Israel will be the first country in the world for a blueprint for this in future!)

You will definitely need a safety budget for this on top of the usual amount you holded back in the old times for an emergency flight ticket. I think in nearest future you won`t get a chance to catch a flight back to home country for medical C19 treatment as you maybe planed it before in other health cases.

I am sure that travel insurances in general will exclude any protection or cost covering if you will run in healthy problems by C19.

In the moment it`s impossible to forecast what kind of pushbacks we have to fight in the future by our kind of traveling but it should be clear that there will come up as many as their are countries in the world.

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I have a feeling that vaccination Immunity is better and longer lasting than any natural immunity conferred by catching the disease.

See what is happening in Manaus (?) in Brazil.

If we are really unlucky then changes in the virus will evade vaccination immunity. But I think that the UK govt is planning for Booster shots in the autumn.

Vaccination certificates will be required for international travel, I'm old enough to have tralled with a vaccination certificate to show that I had been immunised against Cholera, Yellow fever and Smallpox (now eradicated by vaccination).

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