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I generally wear nothing with a logo, especially t-shirts. My sole exception is Horizons Unlimited where I carry a HU t-shirt for the 24-hour ferry journey to northern Spain so I can hook up with any others of a similar inclination.
My current two bikes are KTM and I HATE with a vengeance their 'ready to race' logo, it makes me want to puke as I am a bumbling adventurer, not some speed merchant.
As for pannier stickers, my choice is deliberately vague, for I have the flags of Greater London (Thames and Crown), Orkney and Brittany, plus the 'Indalo' prehistoric mystic symbol from Almería. Make of that what you will.
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22 Apr 2021
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I am greatful that so many creators spend so much time and energy to create great content, for nickkes and dimes, with miserable birds of ever becoming a financial success. Extremely few get paid by sponsors. Few even get the products they review for free. Most of those that do have worked so hard to win a following, that they show awesome integrity. Having worked with countless influencers, very few are willing to prostitute themselves by giving dishonest reviews. In fact, most of those that have become attractive enough to advertisers turn down more opportunities than they accept. In order not to scare away potential sponsors, they reserv reviews for products which they can give an honest and positive review.
If I had the opportunity to receive freebies or money to shout nice things about the products and services I enjoy, or that I would recommend to others regardless of affiluation - I think I would. But, I would be open and honest about the affiliation where it is not self evident - as most successful and credible influencers are.
Influencers have helped me through so many jungles of choices. I don't expect them to do that solely out of altruistic motives.
Most people don't know how hard some of these people work, how much talent and commence they have, how little they make, the sacrifices they make, the risks they take, the uncertainty they endure...
If you look at how much a 30 ninute TV program with one million viewers costs to make - and the number of people and man-hours involved - then a one man band getting the same attention having only spendy nickkes an dimes - that is impressive. They should be making a killing.
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22 Apr 2021
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I am greatful that so many creators spend so much time and energy to create great content, for nickkes and dimes, with miserable birds of ever becoming a financial success. Extremely few get paid by sponsors. Few even get the products they review for free. Most of those that do have worked so hard to win a following, that they show awesome integrity. Having worked with countless influencers, very few are willing to prostitute themselves by giving dishonest reviews. In fact, most of those that have become attractive enough to advertisers turn down more opportunities than they accept. In order not to scare away potential sponsors, they reserv reviews for products which they can give an honest and positive review.
If I had the opportunity to receive freebies or money to shout nice things about the products and services I enjoy, or that I would recommend to others regardless of affiluation - I think I would. But, I would be open and honest about the affiliation where it is not self evident - as most successful and credible influencers are.
Influencers have helped me through so many jungles of choices. I don't expect them to do that solely out of altruistic motives.
Most people don't know how hard some of these people work, how much talent and commence they have, how little they make, the sacrifices they make, the risks they take, the uncertainty they endure...
If you look at how much a 30 ninute TV program with one million viewers costs to make - and the number of people and man-hours involved - then a one man band getting the same attention having only spendy nickkes an dimes - that is impressive. They should be making a killing.
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This is not directly related to being a walking advertisement...But I will comment. I have sent $ to every one of those folks who have been influential in helping me get figured out - or who I just respect. Its not enough to HOPE they do ok, you have to support them yourself. And I'm not speaking to you personally, but to everybody. I am a video editor among other things and have direct knowledge of how much work it is to do what they do.
So support your YT friends.....Even if they are advertising, or sponsored...if you get value - give it back.
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22 Apr 2021
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The only logos I have ever worn are on the work shirts required by the company and those from United Blood Services - had to give a pint to get them and I wanted others to do so also. Anyone impressed by my fashion style needs a psych exam.
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22 Apr 2021
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Originally Posted by Tim Cullis
I generally wear nothing with a logo, especially t-shirts. My sole exception is Horizons Unlimited where I carry a HU t-shirt for the 24-hour ferry journey to northern Spain so I can hook up with any others of a similar inclination.
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The HUBB t shirt I was wearing last year while cycling the Kennet and Avon canal got me into an interesting converstion with another cyclist and hubber, which reminds me I must buy another if they are available as that one has fallen apart and gone for bike cleaning duties and yes I will wear HUBB products.
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22 Apr 2021
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Originally Posted by krtw
This is not directly related to being a walking advertisement...But I will comment. I have sent $ to every one of those folks who have been influential in helping me get figured out - or who I just respect. Its not enough to HOPE they do ok, you have to support them yourself. And I'm not speaking to you personally, but to everybody. I am a video editor among other things and have direct knowledge of how much work it is to do what they do.
So support your YT friends.....Even if they are advertising, or sponsored...if you get value - give it back.
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I agree with everything you just said. I don't send money to everyone, but more than a few. I also try to use affiliate links.
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22 Apr 2021
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Originally Posted by mark manley
The HUBB t shirt I was wearing last year while cycling the Kennet and Avon canal got me into an interesting converstion with another cyclist and hubber, which reminds me I must buy another if they are available as that one has fallen apart and gone for bike cleaning duties and yes I will wear HUBB products.
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I wanna get a HU tee shirt, but the only one I see at the store is lime green. I don't want a lime green tee shirt, unless kermit the frog is on it!
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22 Apr 2021
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I wanna get a HU tee shirt, but the only one I see at the store is lime green. I don't want a lime green tee shirt, unless kermit the frog is on it!
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Send a PM to Grant for an update on when they will be next available.
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23 Apr 2021
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I will be doing the YT thing and am considering my approach right now. And branding is part of it.
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Some advice (as a YT consumer myself): start doing the thing now. The backend stuff of travel is actually super interesting to audiences, the preparations and decisions and considerations of what to do and why, getting it all on tape and out there as you are doing it will make great content. And it will build up your audience BEFORE you actually set off, AND it will let you get good at on-the-fly video editing and production while you have spare time.
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23 Apr 2021
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I wanna get a HU tee shirt, but the only one I see at the store is lime green. I don't want a lime green tee shirt, unless kermit the frog is on it!
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It's hi viz, be a good biker
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23 Apr 2021
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Originally Posted by AnTyx
Some advice (as a YT consumer myself): start doing the thing now. The backend stuff of travel is actually super interesting to audiences, the preparations and decisions and considerations of what to do and why, getting it all on tape and out there as you are doing it will make great content. And it will build up your audience BEFORE you actually set off, AND it will let you get good at on-the-fly video editing and production while you have spare time.
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Interesting!
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I have little issue with a reasonably-sized logo, such as a company's name a few inches wide on the breast pocket, preferably made with some reflective material so it at least serves a useful function.
A huge logo that spans across the shoulders, though, would be a negative. A piece of riding gear would have to be exceptionally good or an extremely low-priced value for me to overlook such an obnoxious label.
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