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Photo by Andy Miller, UK, Taking a rest, Jokulsarlon, Iceland

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The rescuee ASKS for help.

Rescuers make the CHOICE.
Another balancing act.

The first rule of rescue is "don't add to the list of endangered".

On 9/11 alot of firemen and police definitely made decisions that they had to know were not entirely wise. And for the record, they did so, attempting to rescue people who did not look and perhaps even worship like 'them'.

And I'm sure they'd do it again, tomorrow. As an American it was good to see evidence that such character hadn't completely vanished in the country of my birth.

In Utah many years ago several noobs had headed up the Zion Narrows unprepared and were caught in a flash flood. Officials (police, national parks service, and local fire and rescue) decided not to chance adding to the casualty list.

A small group of private outfitters entered the Narrows against both recommendations and standing rules. The rescue was a success and no one was permanently injured.

It's poor judgement to rely on the kindness of strangers but it's still an amazing thing.
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Now I know this is going to p**s someone off but the question has to be asked especially with the recent conflicts going on.

I often read about bikers and travellers planning RTW trips through some very remote and war torn countries. You seem to read more about their worries for bike insurance and visa applications than about their own safety.
The concern I have is that if something should happen to them e.g. kidnapping, what is their exit strategy to get out of the s**t. Do they expect the army to come and rescue them thereby endangering the soldier’s lives as well and what about the stress and worry of their families and relatives as well.

So the question is `do you have the right to potentially put other lives at risk to rescue you so that you can have bragging rights down your pub and in some forums?

It might not just be your life at risk?

Thoughts….
The way you phrase your post suggests that you would only visit a 'dangerous' place to brag about it, and that you view the world in a rather black-and-white way, i.e. 'I will not get killed in county X, but I might get killed in country Y'.

I think far more 'adventure' motorcyclists come to grief from accidents rather than conflict or kidnapping. It's not exactly the safest of hobbies, is it?
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