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How did I miss this gem?!
Only 8 years too late which, to those who know me probably seems early.
I do like my job. In fact, I've recently embarked on my third career!!
The first was an office job with some travelling and a passing association with my uni studies. Paid well, but sucked every waking minute from my day and gave me stress-based blood pressure levels by my late 20s. So plenty of cash, but no time to enjoy it.
Move country to Estonia, and take up something else completely different. I got shorter working weeks, long holidays, but naff-all pay. So lots of time but no money to enjoy it.
Career #3: start a business with a friend. Starting a business at the thin end of a global pandemic sucks but it was then or never. Enjoy it. Work on my terms. Have decent free time. Hopefully get decent money.
Noice....
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I've been at my current position (IT work with a gov't agency). I'm ready to move on... but I can start collecting a reduced pension in just over a year, so my plan is to stick out until December 2022, and then make some decisions.
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so my plan is to stick out until December 2022, and then make some decisions.
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Seeing how the world has turned sideways, you're better off waiting it out for the next year.
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I've only quit 4 jobs this year
Which is below par for me ( there has been a pandemic mind you )
But to reinforce my answer from years ago....
Management sucks
Patients are awesome
Keep on keeping on
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I am retired and I love it !
I hope the travel restrictions will be gone next spring or summer. I just started a VLOG on youtube and would love to put some nice travel videos on YouTube.
Until recently, I just took a lot of pictures during my trips and wrote a travel BLOG ( https://jkrijt.home.xs4all.nl/trips/index.shtml) but thanks to my son, I started a VLOG
Well, actually two VLOGS. My own personal VLOG under my own name, Jan Krijtenburg and the other with the name Motormobilist, together with my son who started riding motorbikes just a few months ago.
For now, I'll post all my new videos on the Motormobilist channel.
The Motormobilist channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7o...KqR3SyQiVy6ehw
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Since the pandemic (and winter) stops me from travelling, I do the next best thing: applying my tech and business skills to improve people's riding experiences. The downside is that if we succeed it'll be a couple of very busy years before I can head off into the horizon. And that I don't have a salary yet... Watch this space for a description of what we do once we're going public!
I could never keep showing up at a job I hated. I need to feel enthusiastic about what I do at all times, which tends to make me better at whatever it is I do. I even tried to be enthusiastic when I had a summer job packing books into boxes. I really got to use my Tetris skills.
The couple of times I've felt bad about my job I've crashed into depressive periods. Sometimes I wish I could adopt a "work to live" attitude, but as work takes up so much of my life, I need to find a way to make it important.
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Blimey, this discussion goes back so far I think I've had another complete career since it started!
I've always distinguished between career and job - in my head anyway. A career is something I've been interested in, qualified for and earn my lifestyle through. It's an activity that, at some level, is what I am. On that basis I've had two careers throughout my working life. No 1 was working in a research lab throughout my 20's / early 30's. The second was when life opened up for me in my mid 30's (post divorce!) and I started a photography business. At one level I never really saw myself as a photographer but I was good at it, it paid well (for a time anyway) and it certainly opened doors into a whole load of other stuff / places I'd never have been able to otherwise access.
Jobs though, they're activities I take on (usually but not always) for monetary reasons. I don't have to enjoy them (although some have been great fun) but they have to pay and I judge whether to take them on on the basis of stress vs reward. On that basis I've had somewhere around 20-25 jobs over the course of my life.
Some of them have been bizarre - I've been an axe and knife throwing instructor. Some of them have been slave labour - picking potatoes by hand as a child to help out with the family finances. Some of them have been 'rewarding' - I met one of the loves of my life as a stand-in Xmas postman, and some of them have been a waste of time - a 'fender bender' crash investigator for the car insurance world. They paid a flat rate and I quickly worked out if the car was more than three miles away (they almost always were) it wasn't worth the effort of going. Annoyingly one of the post retirement jobs I quite enjoyed doing has not survived Covid so, for the second time in my life, I've been made redundant. No big deal for me but some of the other people for whom it was more career than job will be far more badly affected.
I'm trying to work out now what I'll look towards doing after Covid is no longer an issue. I'm not sure I want another zero hrs / min wage level job - unless there's some other interest in it anyway but temperamentally I'm not the sort just to sit around in retirement with an endless supply of box sets and a big tv. I've been writing travel books (for my own amusement) over the last 10yrs or so - just finishing number 5 - and I might self publish them on Amazon or somewhere out of interest. One sale and that would be another tick in the jobs I've learnt money from list.
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Over the last 12 months I would say that I have not enjoyed my job - however it is now starting to be much more fun and I am having to juggle the jobs coming through the factory more and more and am now running two production lines all day most days whereas this time a year ago I had one running about 3 days a week for half a day at a time. So now I am a happy chap. I would still rather be travelling though but this is paying for the trip.
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Blimey, this discussion goes back so far I think I've had another complete career since it started!
I've always distinguished between career and job - in my head anyway. A career is something I've been interested in, qualified for and earn my lifestyle through. It's an activity that, at some level, is what I am. On that basis I've had two careers throughout my working life. No 1 was working in a research lab throughout my 20's / early 30's. The second was when life opened up for me in my mid 30's (post divorce!) and I started a photography business. At one level I never really saw myself as a photographer but I was good at it, it paid well (for a time anyway) and it certainly opened doors into a whole load of other stuff / places I'd never have been able to otherwise access.
Jobs though, they're activities I take on (usually but not always) for monetary reasons. I don't have to enjoy them (although some have been great fun) but they have to pay and I judge whether to take them on on the basis of stress vs reward. On that basis I've had somewhere around 20-25 jobs over the course of my life.
Some of them have been bizarre - I've been an axe and knife throwing instructor. Some of them have been slave labour - picking potatoes by hand as a child to help out with the family finances. Some of them have been 'rewarding' - I met one of the loves of my life as a stand-in Xmas postman, and some of them have been a waste of time - a 'fender bender' crash investigator for the car insurance world. They paid a flat rate and I quickly worked out if the car was more than three miles away (they almost always were) it wasn't worth the effort of going. Annoyingly one of the post retirement jobs I quite enjoyed doing has not survived Covid so, for the second time in my life, I've been made redundant. No big deal for me but some of the other people for whom it was more career than job will be far more badly affected.
I'm trying to work out now what I'll look towards doing after Covid is no longer an issue. I'm not sure I want another zero hrs / min wage level job - unless there's some other interest in it anyway but temperamentally I'm not the sort just to sit around in retirement with an endless supply of box sets and a big tv. I've been writing travel books (for my own amusement) over the last 10yrs or so - just finishing number 5 - and I might self publish them on Amazon or somewhere out of interest. One sale and that would be another tick in the jobs I've learnt money from list. 1:
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After getting up for my 3am pee thought I'd browse HU posts and found this thread and your opening sentence.. Exactly this, 2012 post India trip I decided to look at a change of job and the sole driving force I am embarrassed to admit too was 'more money' needed to fund a need to travel. Look where the world is now compared to when this thread started but particularly look at where 'we' can now travel..?? Since drastically changing my work environment and tweaking/improving my skillset I've allowed myself to realise my long-term dream of RTW travel. It seems to be a trade-off between doing something you more so endure than love for the reward so you can do something you actually love..!! I would imagine somewhere out there theirs folk who die only ever doing their job in which they love SO much there isn't a need for anything else in their lives...!! Eeeek...!!!
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