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Photo by Andy Miller, UK, Taking a rest, Jokulsarlon, Iceland

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Photo by Andy Miller, UK,
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Jokulsarlon, Iceland



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all good advice but pack of dogs or wolves are not fun for sure and it's something that concerns since I like riding alone. How to deal with group attack when you don't have a gun....

The rider in this video is riding a bicycle, and dressed accordingly. The situation on a motorcycle is quite a bit different - the bicycle ride could not accelerate away for example.

The biggest problem with dogs is not that they will chase you, or try to bite you, but that they will wander in the road and become an obstacle.

3 years ago my wife and I were riding a rented scooter (Yamaha Mio) in Indonesia when a mangy dog decided to run across the road straight in front of us in the middle of a small village. We were travelling around 50kmh, I immediately hit the brakes hard and just prior to impact I got back on the throttle hard. We hit the dog amidships, it yelped and flew into the air and somersaulted multiple times before landing. I didn't stop to check but am fairly sure it was fatally wounded - there were plenty of locals to tend to it.

I stopped 1km down the road to check my wife was okay and to see what damage we had done to the bike. To my surprise, not a single scratch on us or the bike.
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That video could have been filmed on my local closed down railway line turned cycle track. Despite numerous notices saying keep your dog on a lead nobody does and the owners only get concerned when the dogs start fighting each other.

When I go running down there it's normal (or usual anyway) to have dogs rush up at you like in the video - not a pack of 25 I admit but often in twos and threes. Some are friendly but some are downright aggressive and it's hard to tell in advance which are which. I think the aggressive ones see you as prey, particularly when you're running away from them. If you ask the owners to control them you either get a mouthful of abuse (men) or a "it's just being friendly" response (women).

A couple of years ago I was running with a group on the trail and we had three little terrier things snapping and growling at us for about 1/4 mile until they were too far from their owners and turned back. A minute to so later a couple of mountain bikers passed us going in the other direction - followed shortly by a loud yelping noise. The dogs had gone for them and one of them had been run over. It was only at that point that the owners took the slightest notice. Fortunately neither of the bikers were hurt and I couldn't have cared less about the dog.

I know the original post was about dogs in Morocco but in my experience it's no better or worse there than in many other places. Of the two worse dog attacks that I've experienced on a bike one was in Mauritania and the other in an affluent part of Pennsylvania. On both occasions they were large dogs that came at me from their property when I was riding past slowly and both of them meant business. The US one was a particularly aggressive animal that tried to attack the back of the bike when it couldn't reach my legs.
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They used to scare me at first but honestly they just bark and run along side if you ignore them. Now, unless it is a massive hound that could possibly bring me down if it clamped onto my leg (which in this case I use method mentioned below and smash it!), otherwise I just ride along as they they weren't there. They only see you as a threat when on their territory, so usually retreat happy with themselves for seeing off another "enemy" after 30 meters.

A good trick is if they are coming at you from an angle, open the throttle right up and then kill it suddenly so the bike jerks and slows, then open it again heavy, or do this a few times even, I've found the sudden changes in the movement totally throws the the little bastards off balance and you can nip past them without issue. I used to think it was the sound of the engine that made them crazy, but they seem to suffer cyclists even less!
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Carry dog food, slow down, stop and feed. ;-)
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I hate dogs, and I'm also terrified of them.

Whenever I go running, cycling, or biking, I get chased by dogs.

There was a dog in Mongolia, the size of a small horse, with red eyes and two heads. It chased me for almost 87 miles at speeds of up to 120 mph over rough terrain, intent on eating me. I still have flashbacks..... You weren't there, man, you don't know.....

Somewhere, perhaps Uzbekistan or some such, I saw a dog on the other side of the road spot me, ***** up its ears and lift its head, then jump up and start running for me.

I immediately feared the damn thing would come straight at me and go under my wheels causing catastrophe.

Then my brain compared extrapolations of path of dog, path of bike, and path of oncoming car....

The dog reached the road just as the oncoming car drew level with me.

I just caught a glimpse of the collision out of the corner of my eye. Half a second sooner and the dog would have taken me out, but I was lucky.

I'd never deliberately hurt a dog and I don't feel "glad" that it was killed, but I don't feel sad about it and I do feel glad it didn't have chance to get under my wheels.

I do not like dogs. I used to have one of those ultrasonic things and it sometimes worked quite well, sometimes had no effect. I lost it somewhere and can't find the same brand. Others seem completely ineffective.
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LOL, I see my post has been automatically censored.

What word beginning with P completes the phrase "P____ up its ears" and refers to an animal suddenly becoming attentive?
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LOL, I see my post has been automatically censored.

What word beginning with P completes the phrase "P____ up its ears" and refers to an animal suddenly becoming attentive?

Censoring software is great isn't it. Easier just to miss spell words: pr!ck, fcuk, ar$e etc. On a different forum the software once censored (McVities) Hobnobs on me!









PS. Why not eat an oaty biscuit after having a run in with a Moroccan dog? It could calm your nerves and allow you to continue with your adventure. Although if you're easily frightened you might not want to go to Morocco, as after an underwear browning experience you might worry about the answer to questions like at http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...og-rolls-80821

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Good thread here safety - How do I deal with a dog chasing me when I'm touring? - Bicycles Stack Exchange
For me, on motorbike I'd just keep going and if the dog is stupid enough to get hit so be it but I'd watch it as that could twist the bars . If running, walking or cycling I let them know I'm top dog by chasing them if they are threatening me. I
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Yes, dogs are a problem everywhere. What the guy did wrong here was to try to kick the second dog, then fell off. Duh.

I had an incident on my most recent trip where I saw a large hound bounding across the scrubland with the intent of intercepting me about 100m down the road. I slowed down, the hound got in front, and then I turned onto the scrubland and chased the dog with the bike. Great fun.

Another technique when being chased with a dog is to stop suddenly, the dog can't stop so quickly, overtakes you, and again you give chase.

Seriously though, just stop the bike. They won't come near you, they are so afraid of locals throwing rocks at them.

I do carry pepper spray but that's for naughty Moroccans, wouldn't dream of using it on a dog.
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